[H.Akston]

"The child is totally her own person."

That is the falsehood that the radical (i.e. unreasonable) anti-abortion argument is built upon, and falls apart because of. The child is NOT totally her own person. Very early on, she is Totally dependent on another person! In order for her to live, she must violate the mother's right to be secure in HER person.
No one has the right to borrow your person, without consent. The right of stopping the seizure is a 4th (and 9th and 13th) Amendment right.

[Ed Current]

Your post fails the common sense test. In other words, it is false on first inspection and is in no way self-evident; however, those lacking common sense can have it provided by the following four:

1. Beckwith005
2. Stephen Schwartz -- Body
3. Doris Gordon -- Thomson
4. Kaczor

Also, you have no idea what the 13^th Amendment was about.

13th. Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Most of the States had abortion laws on the books at the time all those amendments were adopted. Once again, your post fails the plain common sense test.

[derheimwill]

If, by "unreasonable," you mean that we refuse, under any circumstances, to rationalize murder, then color me loopy.