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To: H.Akston
Your post fails the common sense test. In other words, it is false on first inspection and is in no way self-evident; however, those lacking common sense can have it provided by the following four:
  1. Beckwith005
  2. Stephen Schwartz -- Body
  3. Doris Gordon -- Thomson
  4. Kaczor

Also, you have no idea what the 13th Amendment was about.

13th. Amendment to the U.S. Constitution Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Most of the States had abortion laws on the books at the time all those amendments were adopted. Once again, your post fails the plain common sense test.

1,842 posted on 12/31/2004 1:45:15 PM PST by Ed Current (U.S. Constitution, Article 3 has no constituency to break federal judicial tyranny)
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To: Ed Current
If anything fails the common sense test, it is:

"The child is totally her own person."

In other words, it is false on first inspection and is in no way self-evident; however, those lacking the common sense to first see it, could avail themselves of a wisdom donation by re-reading my post.

The child has to borrow another person. That means the child is not her own person.

Ever heard of "involuntary servitude"? You quoted the amendment, but you don't seem to realize the point I was making. It is that without legal abortion at some point during the pregnancy, the rape victim is being forced to involuntarily serve the rapist's spawn, by carrying it to term against her will.

Slavery is also forced "labor", but I don't need a double entendre to win this argument. In fact, just the 4th Amendment alone, will do.

You have a happy new year, ya hear? When you drink, if you drink, you won't have to worry about harming another person, if you're not pregnant, because if you're not pregnant there is no one inside you who is not their own person who will end up drinking what you drink.

Isn't it funny how the child inside a pregnant person is not their own person? She has a drink if the host person takes a drink. How absurd it would be, to say of an unborn child that "The child is totally her own person." Absolutely absurd.

1,844 posted on 12/31/2004 7:38:26 PM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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