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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: ApesForEvolution

This thread has been exausted


1,041 posted on 11/13/2004 11:03:27 PM PST by CouncilofTrent (Quo Primum...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
"The GOP is going to deliver and spend the capital that "we" gave them to do it, that's what..."

Yes, "we" being all the voters, the vast majority of whom did not elect them to pursue a single issue.

1,042 posted on 11/13/2004 11:03:43 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: hocndoc
Like our government, it is only the combined strength of the individual human beings

You're exactly right; and how would you like it if 50 million of us tried to tell you to shut up?

1,043 posted on 11/13/2004 11:04:07 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: The Red Zone

Ross who?


1,044 posted on 11/13/2004 11:05:07 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: secretagent

"All men are created equal, with certain unalienable rights."

Hyperbole does not change the fact that life begins at fertilization/conception. The single celled zygote is a human being and has the right not to be killed by the actions of another human being.


1,045 posted on 11/13/2004 11:05:12 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Artist
Your actions, in support of abortion, are all that matter.

Yet another accusation that can't be backed up with actual proof.

But carry on.

1,046 posted on 11/13/2004 11:05:36 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: CWOJackson

Clinton who?


1,047 posted on 11/13/2004 11:06:40 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Howlin

State another position then, if not "in support of abortion."


1,048 posted on 11/13/2004 11:07:48 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, "we" being all the voters, the vast majority of whom did not elect them to pursue a single issue.

Ah, that old lying liberal Republican canard: "single issue"...the feeble attempt to marginalize pro-lifers.

So once again I will state the actual fact: Most all pro-lifers care deeply about the broad range of issues that face the republic. They just happen to be wise enough to understand that the protection of innocent human life is the first and primary role of government.

1,049 posted on 11/13/2004 11:08:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: The Red Zone
So that's the kind of movement you aspire to? Forgotten in two elections and elect a liberal President.

Now that advances your cause!

1,050 posted on 11/13/2004 11:08:43 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Howlin
"Yet another accusation that can't be backed up with actual proof."

I've been reading your posts for years. I know what you're about, and if you don't like the impression you've given, then stop treating pro-lifers like lepers.

1,051 posted on 11/13/2004 11:09:42 PM PST by Artist (Abortion is domestic violence)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Most all pro-lifers care deeply about the broad range of issues that face the republic."

Which is why most of them would not surrender their votes to a single issue party with no chance of winning.

1,052 posted on 11/13/2004 11:10:41 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: The Red Zone

I don't have to. That's the way this forum runs, in case you don't notice.

But you nor anyone else can find any post where I supported abortion in the six years I've been here.


1,053 posted on 11/13/2004 11:10:54 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Artist

Then you have a comprehension problem; and I'm not treating pro-lifers like lepers; I'm simply pointing out that there is a faction here who continues to threaten the GOP with their votes. It sucks.


1,054 posted on 11/13/2004 11:12:55 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: CWOJackson

Nice try. The vast majority of American pro-lifers 'surrendered their vote' to the pro-life party, the GOP.

And you act surprised when they expect those they have labored so hard for to stand up for what's right?

Strange logic y'all adhere to...


1,055 posted on 11/13/2004 11:13:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: CouncilofTrent

Please stop monopolizing this thread. Thanks in advance.


1,056 posted on 11/13/2004 11:13:50 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: The Red Zone

Q: If there were a vacancy in the Supreme Court and you had the opportunity to fill that position today, who would you choose and why?

A: I would pick somebody who would not allow their personal opinion to get in the way of the law. I would pick somebody who would strictly interpret the Constitution of the US. I wouldn't pick a judge who said that the Pledge of Allegiance couldn't be said in a school because it had the words "under God" in it. That's an example of a judge allowing personal opinion to enter into the decision-making process as opposed to strict interpretation of the Constitution. Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges years ago said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights. That's a personal opinion; that's not what the Constitution says. So I would pick people that would be strict constructionists. Judges interpret the Constitution. No litmus tests except for how they interpret the Constitution.

Source: Second Bush-Kerry Debate, in St. Louis MO Oct 8, 2004



A "personal property rights" case. (MY body, MY body, MY body!) Interesting choice of cases to bring up on the heels of an abortion question.

For him to bring up Roe v Wade would've been political suicide in this context, and he knew it, which is why he brought up the slavery case in its stead. Because until more people are educated ON abortion and its ramifications... he cannot come out and state "Yes my goal in promoting a culture of life is to overturn Roe v Wade". He would lose those voters who are on that rickety fence with "Well I wouldn't have one, but I won't stop someone else from having one."

The only way that I see to change hearts and minds on abortion is to educate people on the Value of Life.


1,057 posted on 11/13/2004 11:14:41 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Nice try. The vast majority of American pro-lifers 'surrendered their vote' to the pro-life party, the GOP."

Not according to you. You said that they are concerned about a wide range of issues.

1,058 posted on 11/13/2004 11:14:57 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: EternalVigilance
Most all pro-lifers care deeply about the broad range of issues that face the republic. They just happen to be wise enough to understand that the protection of innocent human life is the first and primary role of government.

Unborn life is of primary importance to me. That's why I choose between the most electable candidates which one is most pro-life. I vote for that candidate.

In the last election in was Bush. So I voted Bush. Unborn life is too important to be messing around with an unelectable candidate.

1,059 posted on 11/13/2004 11:15:00 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: MHGinTN

I almost thought us Jesus Freak Conservatives should've stayed home in MN to work more when I saw we lost by 3 pts to the RATs in MN - but then, all the efforts towards John Thune's campaign made it all worth it in the final wash...praise God. Bye-bye Tommy!!! was worth it!!

Now, let's see what the GOP leadership has going this week, eh?

God bless you all, including you pathetic RATS and RINOS that cling to your Culture of Death and insanity...

:o

...and for those of you lurking out there that the government calls "African-American" - for my black FRiends out there - the murdered babies are... by highest percentage of government population statistics within segments in society...BLACK BABIES.

Abortion is the new slavery - did America trade one for the other?

Please, Lord, help the blind to see!

O&O



:D


1,060 posted on 11/13/2004 11:15:51 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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