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Gonzales Wrong for Attorney General; Why Won't Bush pick a Pro-Life Nominee? American Life League.
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Posted on 11/12/2004 9:07:10 AM PST by cpforlife.org

To: National Desk

Contact: Amber Matchen of the American Life League, 540-903-9572 or amatchen@all.org

WASHINGTON, Nov. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Judie Brown, president of American Life League, issued the following statement in response to news that White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales is being considered as the replacement for U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft:

"President Bush appears to be doing all that he can to downright ignore pro-life principles. There can be no other explanation for his recommendation of Alberto Gonzales as attorney general. Gonzales has a record, and that record is crystal clear.

"As a Texas Supreme Court justice, Gonzales' rulings implied he does not view abortion as a heinous crime. Choosing not to rule against abortion, in any situation, is the epitome of denying justice for an entire segment of the American population -- preborn babies in the womb.

"When asked if his own personal feelings about abortion would play a role in his decisions, Gonzales told the Los Angeles Times in 2001 that his 'own personal feelings about abortion don't matter... The question is, what is the law, what is the precedent, what is binding in rendering your decision. Sometimes, interpreting a statute, you may have to uphold a statute that you may find personally offensive. But as a judge, that's your job.' Gonzales' position is clear: the personhood of the preborn human being is secondary to technical points of law, and that is a deadly perspective for anyone to take.

"President Bush claims he wants to assist in bringing about a culture of life. Such a culture begins with total protection for every innocent human being from the moment that person's life begins. Within the short period of one week, the president has been silent on pro-abortion Sen. Arlen Specter's desire to chair the senate judiciary committee, and has spoken out in favor of a judge with a pro-abortion track record to lead the Justice Department.

"Why is President Bush betraying the babies? Justice begins with protecting the most vulnerable in our midst. Please, Mr. President -- just say no to the unjust views of Alberto Gonzales."

http://www.usnewswire.com/

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: all; bush43; doj; gonzales; prolife; term2
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Have you actually read those cases? The question was whether the state had a compelling state interest to justify discrimination and whether the program involved was narrowly tailored. Gonzales' lobbied to have the administration concede that diversity was a compelling state interest.


521 posted on 11/13/2004 10:28:07 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Your trespasser analogy is flawed. You obviously do not understand my logic. Your property rights would trump the trespasser's free speech rights, when he is on your property. In fact I could use your analogy to illustrate my point. You have a right to be secure in your person and property. The police should actually assist you in aborting him from your property. If his life depended on remaining in your house and being obnoxious, that would be his tough luck. If he can sustain his own life out on the street, he must be allowed the attempt. He may have to temporarily become a ward of the state in that case. They cannot violate his person in removing him. They can effect a separation between the two soveriegns.

The key is to remember that we each have a right to be secure in our person. No unwanted attachments allowed.

Secure in our person.

Governmentally protectable life begins when no other person's body is required to sustain us.


522 posted on 11/14/2004 5:32:54 AM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
"...to justify discrimination..."

Right there you reached a conclusion without examining facts. You are assuming, or even presuming, that the mere consideration of an individual's race amounts to discrimination. The University did not use quotas, which meant that there was not a situation where a more qualified individual would have been passed over in favor of a less qualified individual, based on their race, in order to satisfy a quota.

523 posted on 11/14/2004 6:15:11 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Your biggest problem is your ignorance of what the Constitution actually says.

The First Amendment protects political speech in the public square.

Your house is NOT the public square, and obnoxious is not political speech.

Your First Amendment rights end at the door step of my private property...that's why Jim Robinson can kick out anyone he doesn't want in HIS forum.


524 posted on 11/14/2004 6:18:04 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Askel5

"That's like saying the "inalienable" rights enumerated in our Declaration only apply to those humans who fit the precise definitions of Constitutional personhood as interpreted by our courts, congressional committees and "pro-life" presidents. "

Oh the irony!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/738376/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/740685/posts?page=292#292

"Third, whatever we do, we're probably going to have to do some form of "regime change" in Mexico. The problem we have is a product of having a corrupt Third World governmental, economic, and social order right next door to a prosperous, stable, and free republic. That is going to have to change--and probably the only way to change it is to invade Mexico, throw out the regime, and occupy it for 20 years, integrating it into the US." -- Poohbah


525 posted on 11/14/2004 6:38:26 AM PST by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Affirmative Action is/was a system of quotas which would theoretically "balance" the ethnic make up of a work force/student body to mirror the ethnic make up of the nation. The University of Michigan did not set quotas for racial admissions, it simply considered the race, and background of the applicant when reviewing their application to gage the individual's achievement against other applicants.

In other words, did the individual overcome great socioeconomic hardships to reach the point in his life where he was being considered for entry into the University's Law School?

Your contention that since Alberto Gonzales argued and won a case that you do not agree with, he's not qualified for the position of AG is flawed, as it is simply based on your disagreement with his argument. In fact, his ability to win the case is exactly what qualifies him for the position; had the opposing view presented a better case, and argued better, they would have won.

My main requirement for an AG in this presidency is the ability to win in Court.


526 posted on 11/14/2004 6:51:08 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
"When the attorney lobbies to have the Solicitor General water down the administration brief to say that diversity is a compelling interest to justify discrimination, then I dare say he approves of affirmative action."

When the solicitor general loses an argument to the attorney, then I say that the wrong guy has the job of solicitor general.

527 posted on 11/14/2004 6:55:07 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: H.Akston

Thanks for those links ... verrry interesting.

Like you, I don't believe the privileges of citizenship (commensurate, as always, with our OBLIGATIONS as citizens), are free for the taking by anyone.

That said, I still believe the "inalienable" rights of our Declaration not only are the basis for the Constitutional Rights we as Americans enjoy or the protections of Geneva we trust will apply broadly to our soldiers but are the rightful claim of any man as a human being.

I think any nation bent on "regime change" round the world as it picks up the thread of Democratization and seeks to best the commies at interventing to "liberate" by force select nations abroad must err on the side of recognizing these inalienable rights, in particular, and the "Constitutional" rights as best it can both at home and in those nations it pretends are ripe for liberation and self-government.

A "strict Constitutionalist" Senate and Congress which spend an inordinate amount of time making things easier for aliens while robbing citizens of their liberties becomes harder to explain each day.


528 posted on 11/14/2004 9:00:49 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: H.Akston

=== Governmentally protectable life begins when no other person's body is required to sustain us.


We're all doomed!!!!

NONE OF US HAS THE PROTECTION OF THE WELFARE STATE!!!


529 posted on 11/14/2004 9:01:59 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: H.Akston
The right to life supersedes the right to be secure in one's own person, just as you say property rights supersede free speech.

BTW, the Supreme Court case that invalidated private discriminatory covenants in homeowners associations used just the logic you advocate, that court enforcement of those actions made it a state action and thus unconstitutional.
530 posted on 11/14/2004 9:17:47 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

If someone gets points based solely on their race, it is discrimination. Unless, of course, you think that there are true differences based solely on race.


531 posted on 11/14/2004 9:18:53 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Or maybe there are people in the administration who are both their bosses. The SG does not have carte blanche. he answers to the President.
532 posted on 11/14/2004 9:20:06 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Please see reply 530.


533 posted on 11/14/2004 9:20:35 AM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

I totally concur.


534 posted on 11/14/2004 9:22:25 AM PST by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

"My main requirement for an AG in this presidency is the ability to win in Court."

Therein lies the problem. OJ is free because his attorney won in court.
I actually care about justice and the merits of the case.


535 posted on 11/14/2004 9:41:06 AM PST by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

You don't understand the difference because you don't want to understand the difference.

Buh, bye..


536 posted on 11/14/2004 9:46:39 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: PersonalLiberties

O.J won in Court because the jury wanted to let him go.

No other reason.


537 posted on 11/14/2004 9:53:38 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Askel5
Re: "Only if he were to actually appoint a man of integrity to a spot where defense of human life were critical would I be troubled ... I'd have one hell of a time trying to figure that one out."

Let me help, you see I am having a little trouble understanding the direction the GOP is heading these days, so maybe it will be useful to talk things out.

The way I see it is the GOP is full of statesmen (cough, ack) who truly believe abortion is a horrible fact of our modern life. In addition they "believe" something must be done about and soon, alas abortion is just one of many troubling issues facing our nation. They support the prolife position 110% as long as it does not interfere with the agenda of other issues of equal or greater urgency, such as:

The war on terror
The war in Iraq
The Patriot Act
Lower Taxes
Less government control
The Economy
Jobs
Unemployment
Job Training
More corporate welfare
ANWAR
Free trade
Tariffs for steel
Renewal sources for energy
making money
spending money
lower gas prices
higher profits for oil products
education
higher education
highest education
NAFTA
cheap Mexican labor
saving social security
funneling SS $ to stock brokers
making more money
Expanding the GOP base
more GOP senators
more Republicans in the House
More GOP power
Tort reform
undermining organized labor with illegals
making still more money
gaining still more power
pork
getting reelected
more pork
Job security for politicians
a lot more pork
more power
more money
pet projects
power
money
pork
the UN
undermining the UN
working within the framework of the UN
reforming the UN
Allies
telling our allies to kiss our behind
more money
more pork
more power
reelection.

I mean we have to have our priorities. Abortion is on the list. We must trust them they will get to it when it is politically correct. There is a strategy to this and all the caterwauling just isn't helpful.

So shut up and sit in front of the TV with your bag of Cheeto's and let the big boys handle this. They will let you know when it is time to get off your a$$ and vote because you know the alternative will be horrible and if the demoncrats get back in charge abortion will never end. The GOP has it on their list right behind these other grave issues. Besides they only have 55 in the Senate and those 45 other seats will have to be won before anything meaningful can be done anyway. You know how it is.

Oh yes don't forget the campaign in 06, I am sure they are taking donations now. Watch out for them mean ol' democrats. They eat aborted fetus for breakfast.
538 posted on 11/14/2004 11:50:33 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish")
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To: Mark in the Old South

=== 110%


Don't you hate folks who support anything MORE than 100%?

God love you, Mark in the Old South.

(Remember, the Americans lost the war between the states. Sad but true.)


539 posted on 11/14/2004 11:53:24 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5
As long as it is just rhetoric they will support it. If it carries a price and they risk losing money or reelection it has to take a back seat to more pressing problems but you can be sure they support the prolife position 100 times more than the demoncrats.

By the way what is 100 times 0?
540 posted on 11/14/2004 11:57:37 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish")
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