Posted on 11/12/2004 7:05:47 AM PST by rd1tx
Possible Kidnapping Caught on Tape Friday, November 12, 2004
CORONA, Calif. Two men were caught on a mall's security camera as they chased a woman through a parking structure, then grabbed and stuffed her into the trunk of a car.
Nearby shoppers seemed to notice the apparent abduction, but none attempted to stop it.
Police on Thursday were still trying to determine the identities of the woman, believed to be in her 20s, and two men involved in the Sunday evening incident at the Corona Discount Mall.
The woman's videotaped reaction upon seeing the men suggested she knew them.
Detective Frank Zellers said the incident was being investigated as a kidnapping.
"It's very discouraging right now and it's really difficult for us, because we don't know who the victim is," he told KCAL-TV. "And it's obvious that some kind of crime occurred. We don't know who the suspects are and who the victim is."
The department had received several calls from witnesses and others in recent days, but had no solid leads, Officer Jesse Jurado said. He said investigators had not yet ruled out the possibility that the incident was a hoax.
A security camera with a view outside the front of the mall recorded the scene as the woman walked from a parking lot to the sidewalk outside the entrance.
When a black Toyota Solara raced up and braked, the woman looked over her shoulder at the car and took off running into a parking structure with the vehicle in pursuit.
Despite a fuzzy videotape image, the woman can be seen running down a parking aisle as two men jump out of the Solara and chase her. One man threw the woman over his shoulder, carried her back to the car and put her in the trunk, which the other man had opened.
A security guard at the mall heard the woman yelling for someone to call the police as she was being stuffed in the trunk, Jurado said.
A handful of shoppers visible in the foreground of the scene appeared to turn their heads and watch the incident. In addition, several motorists drove through the scene.
The car's right front tire was a smaller, spare donut-type tire, police said.
Corona is a Riverside County city of 138,000 about 40 miles southeast of Los Angeles.
I agree and thats part of the problem.Many women are asking for it. I remember the last time I helped out a woman who was being hit by a man. My friend and our two dates were walking into a club. Aman and a woman were fighting in the parking lot. It did not look real serious but my date said dont just stand there do something so I walked up and as he came around the van I sucker punched him and jumped on top of him. Next thing I knew his woman was on me hitting and clawing me. I am very careful about breaking up domestic disturbences and cops know this. They are very cautious as well. I believe stats show more cops being killed this way then any other.
That's a pretty uplifting type of statement.. But it's pretty simplistic. And really... I don't think it's at all accurate. Whether the forces of evil take over this earth or not... is not in the hands of men and women.
This sounds like a gang matter, pimps or drug dealers.
I don't blame people for not interfering, but it would have been a good idea if someone had gotten the plate number at least. I wouldn't even venture to write it down with two gangsters looking on, but I would repeat it until they were leaving and then write it down.
I don't know how much that would help, but even if they changed the plates or ditched the car it might give the police a lead.
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Within five years predict a fundamental change in society's response to witnessing events. New model cellular phones have video camera; just as this article was highlighted because of the video capture, we as citizens will have the capability to video the event and even send it through the cellular network. The 911 operator would be able to see the action, or could also be sent to your local news agency or even your lawyer.
I believe this technology will significantly change open behavior in society.
That makes sense. At least one would be able to capture the event and have some sort of evidence etc.
I witnessed something similar several years ago in a parking lot across the street from my house. It also appeared that the young woman knew the men, and probably had arrived there in the vehicle with them, and gotten out, before being forced back in. I saw it from 20-30 yards away and there was no way I could have intervened, it happened VERY quickly. I couldn't even get the plate number, since the two young men were standing in front of it as they put her in the back (it was a Jeep type vehicle). I called police as the vehicle was pulling out of the lot, but they weren't able to find it. The sad truth is that probably even if they had, the woman would have refused to press charges, and would be voluntarily hanging out with the guys again in no time.
I'm 99.9% sure they were in a stolen car and packing!
If she would have been a dolphin or a whale there would have been lots of help!!!
the people stood by and did nothing becasue that is exactly what they have been trained to do by the police who want the glory for themselves.The cops really really hate it when lowly peons stop and solve crimes to the point where some of the civies get arrested themselves everyonece in awhile for daring to try to think and act for themselves because what started out as a stalking or assault now is a kidnapping because no one prevented it.So now the cops have a major felony they can arrest someone on instead of a misdemonor or minor felony and in six months to a year the y go to thier bosses and say. "Golly gee boss man lookie here I got all these major felony arrests in my carreer dont you think its time I get a substancial raise and a gold shield for it ?"
I think I know where you are trying to go with your argument, but there comes a time when direct action is called for.
I will guarantee you that if good people don't get involved in the process of keeping our society civil, it will become less and less civil.
Street crime is function of good people doing nothing out of fear.
I refuse to live my life in fear, and if/when I witness another street crime, I'll get involved to the maximum extent of my capabilities!
If other good people would choose to be good citizens and get involved, a lot of crime would just not happen. The bad guys (and gals) are certainly outnumbered by the good guys 'n gals. All we have to do is not be afraid to get involved and the criminal's jig is up.
The feminization of Amerika continues.
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