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Another student victim of Liberal schooling
television news | 11/12/04 | sunnyside

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:39:25 AM PST by SunnySide

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To: Phantom Lord

Speaking of bad social skills, throwing out unsubstantiated comments and pretending they are fact is not exactly the height of social adeptness....care to take a wager that he/she is the product of a government school?


21 posted on 11/12/2004 6:51:25 AM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Have you thanked a Swiftie today for the election results???)
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To: newzjunkey

All I can think of every time a lame incident like comes up is how fortunate (lucky) I was compared to kids today that I attended the schools I did, when I did. Us students back then had a blast and interacted with respect and admiration for our teachers, some even becoming long time friends into our adulthood. The teachers during my school years even into college did not ram their "personal" agenda's down our throats, they taught students, they encouraged students, like teachers are suppose to.


22 posted on 11/12/2004 6:52:01 AM PST by SunnySide
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To: Pitiricus
Yeah, but in many cases, parents who are qualified (former teachers, for example) teach more than their own children. These families form home-school co-ops in which they combine students from several families, somtimes with several teachers and even extracurricular activities. I know a guy who used to teach theater to fairly large groups of home-school kids. What these people do (the ones I am talking about) is tantamount to starting their own provate school.

However, I also know some people who were going to home-school their kids, but they don't. The 2 kids just stay home with their mom, basically being truants, learning nothing.

23 posted on 11/12/2004 6:53:01 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Phantom Lord
Though I suspect that government school children perform better at putting condoms on cucumbers.

BWHAHAHAHA!

24 posted on 11/12/2004 6:53:44 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Pitiricus
Actually home schooling is a very bad idea...

More liberal tripe from the newest "approved" liberal troll on FR.

How many liberal positions can you take before finally being booted?

It's like a game show, "How Long can The Poser survive on FR?" Kinda like a "Survivors for losers".

Please extol the virtues of government schools as seen through the eyes of a leftist advocate.

25 posted on 11/12/2004 6:54:04 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
care to take a wager that he/she is the product of a government school?

I'm thinking a teacher/administrator in a Gov't school.

26 posted on 11/12/2004 6:54:39 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: newzjunkey
You do know that homeschooling is regulated, right? There are standardized tests, approved curriculums and so on.

In addition, parents are also recognizing the need for improved social skills and are now joining their kids for organized field trips, joint "classes", etc.

27 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:01 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Phantom Lord

As a college professor, I would disagree... I have seen enough failures of the homeschooled to say it isn't so... Again not in all cases, but in the vast majority!

They just don't have the skills...


28 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:06 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

I recently attended a national convention on home schooling, and the key note speaker shared a study on home schooling indicating that race, parent's level of education and financial status were not indicators of success for homeschooling families... unlike public school. The same study also found no benefit to increased state regulation on homeschooling.

Homeschoolers still do 2% better on standardized testing on average. They also fare better in many other measures of success.

My homeschooled daughter missed her debate team meeting last night, to play a game with her nationally competitive basketball team. She has a math competition this weekend with another good friend of hers. There are support groups that combine together to teach advanced highschool courses that cannot be obtained by working with local junior colleges.

The "Facts", contradict your assertions.

Craig


29 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:25 AM PST by csivils
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To: Pitiricus
"But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses..."

I agree. Parents do not subscribe to the brain-washing of the left and hence, are not qualified or to be trusted to conduct it on their own children.

30 posted on 11/12/2004 6:57:49 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Pitiricus

Boy! You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about!


31 posted on 11/12/2004 6:58:07 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: bikepacker67
As a college professor, I would disagree...

You nailed him!

32 posted on 11/12/2004 6:58:22 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: SunnySide

Well, this is what teachers should do... I must also say that my children had such teachers...

So things are not yet as bad as some want us to believe...


33 posted on 11/12/2004 6:58:50 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus

I suspect you are getting the bottom of the barrell at your institution as the rest are far superior to the quality of student who attend your school.


34 posted on 11/12/2004 6:59:04 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: SunnySide

BTTT


35 posted on 11/12/2004 7:00:12 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Pitiricus
"But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses..."

Our newly elected State Auditor, who is a CPA for 30 years is also not "qualified" to teach accounting in government schools because he lacks the required "certification". Yet I suspect he can teach accounting better than anyone on staff currently.

36 posted on 11/12/2004 7:02:16 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Phantom Lord

Obviously, this self-proclaimed college instructor isn't at any of the Ivy League schools that are vigorously recruiting home-schooled students. He is so out of touch.


37 posted on 11/12/2004 7:04:21 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Phantom Lord

As I said, I am in the business, downstream... So I know what I am talking about...

Skills that should have been acquired a long time ago are lacking. Things that we are not in the business of teaching at the college level. So these students fail, and in a way, it isn't their fault, but it is the fault of the program they got.

I understand that some parents don't like a lot of what is happening in public schools, but then they better fight about it. because for the vast majority of children, schools are what they need.

Of course if your problem is that you want religious indoctrination of your children, its another ballgame... And it has nothing to do with quality!


38 posted on 11/12/2004 7:04:32 AM PST by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus
badly-educated person, without social skills

My young home-schooled children could identify you as ignorant and rude. Make you feel better?

39 posted on 11/12/2004 7:05:05 AM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Iowa - at home in the red.)
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To: SunnySide

What exactly was their reasoning for suspending her for doing a cartwheel?


40 posted on 11/12/2004 7:05:06 AM PST by Husker24
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