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Operation Phantom Fury Live Thread
msnbc, cnn, various ^ | epluribus_2

Posted on 11/08/2004 8:39:55 AM PST by epluribus_2

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq - More than 4,000 U.S. Marines and Army troops punched their way into northeastern Fallujah on Monday, kicking off a massive assault dubbed Operation Phantom Fury that seeks to put an end to half a year of insurgent control of the Sunni Muslim city.

The prelude to the assault on the Askari neighborhood was a crushing air and artillery bombardment of the city that rose to a crescendo by Monday evening, with U.S. strike jets dropping bombs around the clock and big guns pounding the city every few minutes with high-explosive shells.

Meanwhile, insurgents in Baghdad and nearby Ramadi tried to keep up the pressure on the coalition forces with new attacks, including one on a Catholic church in the capital.

Earlier Monday U.S. troops had fought their way into the city's western outskirts, seizing two bridges over the Euphrates River and helping Iraqi soldiers take the city's main hospital in the first stage of a major assault on the insurgent stronghold.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falluja; fallujah; iraq; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; usmc; wot
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To: MEG33

ah. then it makes sense.


341 posted on 11/08/2004 10:46:06 AM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Pukin Dog

"It is a worse danger to overestimate one's self."

Loose Lips Sinks Ships
Free Republic | 09/15/01 | Jim Robinson
Posted on 09/15/2001 6:59:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/524504/posts

Just a reminder to please watch what is posted.


342 posted on 11/08/2004 10:46:14 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (God Bless and Protect our Military and our Allies Military)
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To: Gucho

what is that coming down? some of us here are not too armament saavy.. are those bullets.. a series of bombs? fire? lasers? It is pretty!


343 posted on 11/08/2004 10:46:46 AM PST by DollyCali (Winning isn't everything. But losing really sucks. Sorry sKerry. You're a loser in all respects.)
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To: TalonDJ

well, I own an AK and not an AR15, so you can guess my preference, but...

uniformity of equipment is pretty important.


344 posted on 11/08/2004 10:47:21 AM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: TomGuy; Howlin
None of the embeds apparently are streaming any feeds. Video clips seem to be from media pool, since they are basically the same.

GOOD! We'll get the reports soon enough. Let's keep the advantage to the good guys.

Thanks for the ping Howlin.

Prairie

345 posted on 11/08/2004 10:48:20 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: DollyCali

It's probably a time-lapsed photo of tracer fire from an AC-130


346 posted on 11/08/2004 10:48:43 AM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
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To: DollyCali

Tracer bullets from the Vulcan cannons. That is a time laps shot. It arcs through the sky because the plane is moving and arcs across the ground because there are plenty of things down there to shoot and it does not take long to shoot each and every one.


347 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:08 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: DollyCali

those are tracers.
1/3 rounds is a tracer IIRC

some troops load ALL tracers if they can get away with it - going for the full "Star Wars" effect.


348 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:11 AM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: DollyCali
what is that coming down? some of us here are not too armament saavy.. are those bullets.. a series of bombs? fire? lasers? It is pretty!

IIRC, those are tracer rounds from the 40 mm cannon. Every 5th round is a tracer round. Gives you an idea of just how much death one of those things can spread.

349 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:15 AM PST by r9etb
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thanks!


350 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:25 AM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: MEG33

Explaining the importance of taking hospital..To prevent propaganda estimates and to prevent roof being used by enemy to inform others of our positions. (Last time they found cell phones on the roof)(Wondering about mosques..surely we learned they were used as outposts before)


351 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:28 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the reminder.


352 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:37 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: San Jacinto

"fixing to be blown to sh*t"

I guess that WOULD tend to make one restive.


353 posted on 11/08/2004 10:49:46 AM PST by Socratic (More matters than oneself.)
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To: King Prout

Yeah but with so many zillions of aks in the country before the war I am betting most of our guys have 1 of 2 by now.


354 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:07 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: r9etb

that pic is of the minigun fire.
I'm not sure what the tracer ratio is.


355 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:14 AM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: King Prout

In the situation we are fighting in there it's also better to be carrying the types of weapons that are being used by the local enemy. If you run out of ammo you can always loot their corpses. ;-)


356 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:18 AM PST by KoRn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Man, that is tagline material if I ever saw it!


357 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:28 AM PST by Maigrey (Your job is to arrest the killers but if you kill them, then so be it. - Minister Allawi)
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To: No Blue States
Refugees in Baghdad have confirmed the rumours that the 'Mujahideen' are forcing men from 15-50 years old to stay and that they were threatened with execution if they refuse to carry arms in defense of the town.

I had heard that this morning or late last night. And did you see that post on the other thread that I posted to you the NPR and Guardian info regarding some of the Iraqi troops not fighting with the US due to threats from Mooky Sadr and others.

Anyway here it is again.

U.S.: 42 Insurgents Killed in Fallujah

Another issue is the role of Iraqi forces fighting alongside the Americans. A National Public Radio correspondent embedded with the Marines outside Fallujah reported desertions among the Iraqis. One Iraqi battalion shrunk from over 500 men down to 170 over the past two week - with 255 members quitting over the weekend, the correspondent said.

Clerics in Fallujah denounced Iraqi troops participating in the assault, calling them the ``occupiers' lash on their fellow countrymen.''

``We swear by God that we will stand against you in the streets, we will enter your houses and we will slaughter you just like sheep,'' the clerics said in a statement.

A senior aide to firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr urged Iraqi forces not to fight alongside U.S. troops.

``We appeal to the Iraqi National Guard and Iraqi police not to help the occupation troops as they want to target the Iraqi people in Fallujah,'' said Sheikh Abdul-Hadi al-Daraji. The Iraqi troops should not be a tool in the hands of the occupation troops.''

358 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:35 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: DollyCali

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm

Read up...the Bofors is even an old ww2 era calibre that was used as an anti-aircraft battery. Of course it's been adjusted over time. The Vulcan 20mm (6,000 rounds a minute) and the Gatling 25mm (1,800 rnd/min) is a good start.


359 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:43 AM PST by jamz
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To: Ingtar
Operation Allah-FUBAR
This gets my vote!
360 posted on 11/08/2004 10:50:46 AM PST by CCCnative (waiting for socialism to fail in Santa Cruz as it did in Soviet Russia)
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