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Marines Prepare For Casualties
Biloxi Sun Herald ^ | November 6, 2004 | Biloxi Sun Herald

Posted on 11/06/2004 11:28:50 AM PST by Former Military Chick

The number of dead and wounded from the expected battle to retake insurgent-controlled Fallujah probably will reach levels not seen since Vietnam, a senior surgeon at the Marine camp outside Fallujah said Thursday.

Navy Cmdr. Lach Noyes said the hospital here is preparing to handle 25 severely injured soldiers a day, not counting walking wounded and the dead. The hospital has added two operating rooms, doubled its supplies, added a mortuary and stocked up on blood reserves. Doctors have set up a system of ambulance vehicles that will rush to the camp's gate to receive the dead and wounded so units can return to battle quickly.

The plans underscore the ferocity of the fight the U.S. military expects in Fallujah, a Sunni Muslim city about 35 miles west of Baghdad which has been under insurgent control since April. More than 1,120 U.S. soldiers and Marines have died in Iraq since the war began, more than 860 of those from hostile fire.

The deadliest month was April when fierce fighting killed 126 U.S. troops largely at Fallujah and Ramadi before a cease-fire virtually turned Fallujah over to the insurgents. Even then, the death toll was far below the worst month of Vietnam, April 1969, when the U.S. death toll was 543 at the height of American involvement there.

U.S. forces have been building up outside Fallujah for weeks in preparation for taking the city back, and many here believe the assault is likely to come soon.

Military officials say they expect U.S. troops will encounter not just fighters wielding AK-47s assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, but also heavy concentrations of mines, roadside bombs and possibly car bombs.

"We'll probably just see those in a lot better concentration in the city," said Maj. Jim West, an intelligence officer with 1st Marine Expeditionary Force.

West said he thinks there are some 4,000 to 5,000 fighters between Fallujah and nearby Ramadi, and they may try to draw troops into cramped urban areas in Fallujah that have been booby-trapped.

The toll in human suffering has already been grave.

Staff Sgt. Jason Benedict was on a convoy heading to the Fallujah camp last Saturday when a suicide bomber rammed a vehicle into the truck Benedict and his platoon mates were traveling on. A few minutes later, mortars and rifle fire rained down on the survivors. As he rolled toward the safety of a ditch, Benedict saw one of his friends crawling on all fours, with blood pouring from his face.

"You've got to expect casualties," said Benedict, 28. The fight for Fallujah, he said, "is overdue."

Eight Marines were killed in the bombing. Benedict is now recuperating in the field hospital with burns to his left hand and the side of his head.

In the six weeks Noyes has worked at the Fallujah camp, his team has operated on Marines with eyes gouged by shrapnel and limbs torn by explosion. A rocket strike outside the hospital killed two staff members and left deep pockmarks across the white concrete walls.

Noyes said some bodies have been so badly mangled that they had to be shipped home for DNA identification.

As Noyes was speaking Thursday, two Marines and a female American photojournalist were rushed into the hospital. A roadside bomb had hit their vehicle. The Marines had shrapnel cuts and burns, and the photographer's teeth had been pushed back into her mouth. The bomb was attached to a tank of gasoline, meant to create a fireball that didn't ignite.

Capt. Melissa Kaime, another Navy surgeon at the hospital, said that seeing trauma wounds in medical school is one thing; seeing them come off the battlefield is something altogether different.

"To treat a patient when (his) brain is coming out... ," she said, before her voice trailed off. "There are things that I will never understand. It's beyond my comprehension; a higher power will have to explain why these things have happened."

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Copyright 2004 Biloxi Sun Herald. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; marines
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To: Types_with_Fist

No arguments here.
mc


21 posted on 11/06/2004 11:58:35 AM PST by mcshot (The votes are in - liberalism is abnormal.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Roadside bombs injuries are not combat injuries.

The Marines are going to kick ass in combat as they do every single time.

This Doctor and this reporter are being irresponsible with this stuff.

On the other hand simply remotely leveling the area a block at a time makes a lot of sense to me if it keeps our Troops safer.


22 posted on 11/06/2004 12:00:25 PM PST by Radix (Yasser Arafat finally gets his own State. It is called Comatose!)
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To: JOE43270
Yes, send in BUFF{B-52}and the his little brother the B-1

Actually the B-1 Carries more ordinance than the B-52...

23 posted on 11/06/2004 12:01:10 PM PST by PhotoFixer3
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To: Former Military Chick

JJ - God's Speed and to Andy his dad a retired paratrooper from the 82d. He was my Ops NCO in Japan. Jumpmaster's lead the way - and from the Army - Go USMC Combined Arms Team! God Bless all our troops, contractors and support - even the State Dept weenies like myself!


24 posted on 11/06/2004 12:01:42 PM PST by Jumper
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To: PhotoFixer3


"Just level the city with B-52's then you will have 0 Marines killed or injured..."

I think they may well do exactly that. The US was urging civilians to leave Fallujah, so the only ones left inside are the terrorists. Drop a few Daisy Cutters.

Let's see a lot of TERRORIST casualties.

I think that is what's most likely to happen.



25 posted on 11/06/2004 12:03:09 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: JOE43270
The B-1B represents a major upgrade in U.S. long-range capabilities over the B-52 -- the previous mainstay of the bomber fleet. Significant advantages include:

Low radar cross-section to make detection considerably more difficult.

Ability to fly lower and faster while carrying a larger payload.

Advanced electronic countermeasures to enhance survivability.

Source B1-B

26 posted on 11/06/2004 12:04:41 PM PST by PhotoFixer3
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To: PhotoFixer3; river rat; Squantos; archy; tonycavanagh

Rolling thunder. Just walk lines of bombs and arty across the city at a walking pace. Rubble-ize it. It will be cheaper in the long run.

Build housing for the survivors elsewhere.


27 posted on 11/06/2004 12:05:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Moonman62

US Marines of the 1st Division dressed as gladiators stage a chariot race reminiscent of the Charlton Heston movie-complete with confiscated Iraqi horses at their base outside Fallujah, Iraq Saturday, Nov. 6 , 2004.

For U.S. Marines tapped to lead an expected attack on insurgent-held Fallujah, the bags have been packed, trucks have been loaded and final letters have been sent, leaving one final task - the 'Ben-Hur.'

28 posted on 11/06/2004 12:06:41 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: PhotoFixer3
The number of dead and wounded from the expected battle to retake insurgent-controlled Fallujah probably will reach levels not seen since Vietnam,

Leveling the city is what I would do as well. Since when is financial expedience more important than the lives of our soldiers. MOAB time.

The PC MUST end...someday...oh well we can always pray. Our survival depends upon it.

29 posted on 11/06/2004 12:07:05 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Radix

Reporter scum will interview 100 troops to get a few anti-war sounding bites.

Which are usually misquoted as well, or pulled out of context.


30 posted on 11/06/2004 12:07:44 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PhotoFixer3

B52's would be my weapon of choice followed by daisy cutters. Level it.


31 posted on 11/06/2004 12:09:12 PM PST by afnamvet ( Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: JOE43270

The B-1 is actually able to carry more bombs, so I guess you could say it’s the other way around.

I think this comes down to full on combat, no gay rules of engagement, use of all weapons in overwhelming proportion and who the heck cares about civilian casualties. You will save lives in the long run when you crush this terrorist bastion.

It's very simple, take what the allies would do if they were attacking a city in WWII and just do that.

And to heck with what the traitorous/communist media and rats have to say about it!


32 posted on 11/06/2004 12:10:59 PM PST by demecleze
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To: PhotoFixer3

Relax PhotoFixer3. This old Airman has a special place in my heart for BUFF. I know He's Old and the B-1 has newer equipment, but Buff is over fifty years old and I worked on him in the seventies and he was around a long time before that. He's still here and that is outstanding. Please remember that as old as he is He's still here. Let the old Bird go on the Mission and he won't let you down. God Bless America and all her people in uniform protecting us. I'm glad you came back to me.


33 posted on 11/06/2004 12:15:28 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: PhotoFixer3

Dude that is just WRONG on soooo many levels!


34 posted on 11/06/2004 12:15:57 PM PST by Bommer (“ Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: Indie
"The number of dead and wounded from the expected battle to retake insurgent-controlled Fallujah probably will reach levels not seen since Vietnam,"

Is that the Old Media doing their best to spread Vietnam "quagmire" syndrome again?
They have been talking about "another Vietnam" ever since the first day of this war.
Hasn't happened. Won't happen.
35 posted on 11/06/2004 12:16:15 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: demecleze

Relax demecleze. This old Airman has a special place in my heart for BUFF. I know He's Old and the B-1 has newer equipment, but Buff is over fifty years old and I worked on him in the seventies and he was around a long time before that. He's still here and that is outstanding. Please remember that as old as he is He's still here. Let the old Bird go on the Mission and he won't let you down. God Bless America and all her people in uniform protecting us. I'm glad you came back to me.



36 posted on 11/06/2004 12:19:47 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Semper Fi


37 posted on 11/06/2004 12:26:45 PM PST by BillyCrockett
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To: Former Military Chick

We need to pray hard for all our Marines but I don't think this pessimistic prediction will come to pass. Air support will be a big help in this battle.


38 posted on 11/06/2004 12:31:37 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Former Military Chick

I'm not trying to minimize the danger, but this hospital will be treating US, Allied and enemy casualties.

Also, if history is any lesson, military hospitals always prepare for the worst-case senario, so they will be ready for any eventuality. It is always better to have more surgeons, more medicine and more hospital beds than necessary.


39 posted on 11/06/2004 12:35:27 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Former Military Chick

glad to hear all these preparations are being made but wish the media would quit talking about them as they are making our medical facilities and personnel a big target for terrorists.


40 posted on 11/06/2004 12:38:23 PM PST by fatrat (former "doc")
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