2008 George, George Allen!

[maineman]

George Allen on Abortion # Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004) # Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003) # Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Budget & Economy Authored Balanced Budget Amendment plus lower taxes. (Apr 2000)

George Allen on Civil Rights # Support VA beliefs & pass flag-burning ban amendment. (Apr 2000) # Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002) # Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001) # Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001) # Rated 20% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)

George Allen on Corporations # Voted YES on restricting rules on personal bankruptcy. (Jul 2001) # Rated 100% by the US COC, indicating a pro-business voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Crime # Abolished parole; instituted Three Strikes laws. (Sep 2000) # Try juvenile felons as adults. (Sep 2000)

George Allen on Drugs Tougher sentencing for drug crimes. (Sep 2000)

George Allen on Education # Testing has brought accountability. (Sep 2000) # Voted NO on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted NO on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001) # Voted NO on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001) # Rated 27% by the NEA, indicating anti-public education votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Energy & Oil # Roll back federal gas tax to lower gas price. (Apr 2000) # Voted YES on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003) # Voted NO on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003) # Voted NO on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003) # Voted YES on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002) # Voted YES on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)

George Allen on Environment # Voted YES on confirming Gale Norton as Secretary of Interior. (Jan 2001) # Rated 0% by the LCV, indicating anti-environment votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Families & Children Rated 100% by the Christian Coalition: a pro-family voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Foreign Policy Voted YES on enlarging NATO to include Eastern Europe. (May 2002)

George Allen on Free Trade # Voted YES on establishing a free trade agreement between US & Singapore. (Jul 2003) # Voted YES on establishing a free trade agreement between the US and Chile. (Jul 2003) # Voted YES on extending free trade to Andean nations. (May 2002) # Voted YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam. (Oct 2001) # Voted YES on removing common goods from national security export rules. (Sep 2001) # Rated 67% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record. (Dec 2002)

George Allen on Government Reform # oted NO on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002) # Voted YES on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002) # Voted NO on banning campaign donations from unions and corporations. (Apr 2001)

George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)

George Allen on Health Care # Voted YES on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Jun 2003) # Voted YES on allowing importation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002) # Voted NO on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001) # Voted YES on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Apr 2001) # Rated 0% by APHA, indicating a anti-public health voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Homeland Security # Build SDI; pay soldiers more. (Sep 2000) # Small business in developing homeland security technologies. (Jul 2002) # Rated 0% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Jobs # Voted YES on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001) # Rated 0% by the AFL-CIO, indicating an anti-labor voting record. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Principles & Values Calls himself “Common sense” conservative populist. (Apr 2000)

George Allen on Tax Reform # End death tax & marriage penalty; more deductions. (Apr 2000) # Voted YES on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. (May 2003) # Voted YES on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. (May 2001) # Voted NO on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001) # Voted NO on increasing tax deductions for college tuition. (May 2001) # Rated 76% by NTU, indicating a "Taxpayer's Friend" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on Technology # Voted NO on disallowing FCC approval of larger media conglomerates. (Sep 2003) # Fund nanotechnology research & development. (Dec 2003)

George Allen on War & Peace # Voted YES on $86.5 billion for military operations in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Oct 2003) # Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002) # Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism. (Oct 2001)

George Allen on Welfare & Poverty * Minor mothers must live at home & identify fathers. (Sep 2000) * Tax credits to promite home ownership in distressed areas. (Apr 2003)

[paul51]

That is what this sounds like to me.

He consistently said during the campaign that he wouldn't vote to repeal it because it was toothless and meaningless. If you get to know him, you'll realize that's his style. Working to get rid of a law that he thought was meaningless (even harmless) would be a waste of time to him.

[John Robertson]

I guess it's open to interpretation. I'm just saying, look a little closer at the guy. Please. Thanks.

[hershey]

I think he's the one.

[maineman]

He was pretty upset with the back door McTurnCoat deal.

[Corin Stormhands]

What, talking out of both sides of his mouth?

Fat, drunk and Californian is no way to go through life son.

[Corin Stormhands]

He attended UVa! (sigh!) As a fellow Hokie let me tell you it could be always be worse. The problem is I just can't think how at the moment.

Yep, he's a Wahoo. BUT he has also been a strong supporter of Virginia Tech. He was very supportive in the whole process of moving Tech to the ACC.

And c'mon, do you really wanna see "Hokies for Hillary?"

[paul51]

Fat, drunk and Californian is no way to go through life son.

Words of advice from a real intellectual. Just what I need. You've been in the mountains too long pal.

[Corin Stormhands]

Hey, I'm not the one that lives in the land of fruits and nuts.

But, putting that aside for a moment, I know George Allen personally. You're dead wrong in your opinion of him.

Take it to the bank.

[paul51]

Take it to the bank

From a guy like you? Sure I will.

[Corin Stormhands]

good night

[BillyBoy]

2004: DEM NOMINEE IS U.S. SENATOR FROM "SAFE" DEM STATE. RESULT = GOP WIN.

1996 GOP NOMINEE IS U.S. SENATOR FROM "SAFE" GOP STATE. RESULT = DEM WIN

1984: DEM NOMINEE IS U.S. SENATOR FROM "SAFE" DEM STATE. RESULT = GOP WIN.

1972: DEM NOMINEE IS U.S. SENATOR FROM "SAFE" DEM STATE. RESULT = GOP WIN.

1964: GOP NOMINEE IS U.S. SENATOR FROM "SAFE" GOP STATE. RESULT = DEM WIN

See any pattern here? Read my lips, NO MORE NOMINATING SENATORS FROM "SAFE" STATES THAT THEIR PARTY WINS BY DEFAULT.

"Yeah...Bob Dole has Kansas eight electoral votes in the bag... look out Clinton! "

A southern/midwestern RAT swing state governor in the Carter/Clinton mold is hoping and praying the GOP picks a deep red-state Senator.

[Corin Stormhands]

It's a moot point if it's Hillary vs. Allen.

[nightowl]

George Allen will be the next President of the United States. I decided that weeks ago. A few weeks ago, a friend was at my house and I had the TV on Cspan and Senator George Allen was speaking on the floor of the Senate. I told her that she was looing at our next president. Her response? Who is he?

We obviously have some work to do. Senator Allen is a two term governor of Virginia. He should be our guy for 2008. He is just a terrific conservative. He is the REAL DEAL!

[BillyBoy]

Yeah, being an FORMER Gov in a "safe" state really got this guy far..

"But I DO have EXECUTIVE experience! I was Lt. GOVERNOR under Mike... eh, nevermind. Did I mention I was in Vietnam?"

[BillyBoy]

Go on DU and you will find they are all panicked over the idea of nominating the Hilderbeast but VERY enthusiastic about the idea of nominating Mark Warker. (BTW, RINOs in VA love Warner) What if safe GOP stater George Allen has to compete on his home turf?

[John Robertson]

I don't see that as an argument.

Massachussetts is small, lib, democratic.

Virginian is bigger, has a decent electoral vote count, and, culturally and politically, aligns with a lot more red statest than Mass. Uh...not a lot more, all of them.

[Paleo Conservative]

Yeah, being an FORMER Gov in a "safe" state really got this guy far..

Virginia was a lot closer than Massachusetts.

[BillyBoy]

>> Massachussetts is small, lib, democratic. <<

Yes, hence when the Dems nominate Senators from there, they only carry OTHER small, liberal, Democrat states and have trouble competing anywhere else. Even the original JFK himself BARELY beat Nixon in 1960 and would have NEVER won TX and IL without vote fraud.

>> Virginian is bigger, has a decent electoral vote count, and, culturally and politically, aligns with a lot more red statest than Mass.

Yep. And the reverse is true. VA is a moderately sized, conservative, solidly Republican (in federal electons) state. Hence, any candidate from there will carry other moderately sized, conservative, solidly Republican states... and struggle to win over anything else. Swing states like Iowa, Wisconsin, Pennsyvania, Oregon, etc. would more likely to vote for some folky red-state Democrat Governor than vote for Republican from a "safe" Republican state (just ask Bob Dole)

>> I don't see that as an argument. <<

Thank you for proving my point. Governors from competative states have a far, far better chance of winning. See Clinton, Reagan, and Carter for more info.

We eeked by the last two Presidential elections even with a Governor on the ticket. I'd rather not have to push our luck even further by running a Senator and risk hearing the phrase "President Richardson", "President Warner", or "President Visalk" in four years.

[John Robertson]

Where to begin?
Oh, I'm not going to disagree point by point with you.

I disagree. And it's too late.

But you threw out some potential dem prez candidates... without mentioning who the nominee will be: Hilary.

I see you're a "college age male," which is great, because you must have learned enough to realize you don't know it all. Much of what you said was interesting, but not empirical. And never forget: While there are always similarities, from one election to another, every new prez. election has dynamics flowing through it that haven't been seen before, and they very much affect the outcome.

[BillyBoy]

>> But you threw out some potential dem prez candidates... without mentioning who the nominee will be: Hilary. <<

Yeah, yeah, yeah, EVEN though every Dem is scared stiff over the thought of running the Hilderbeast after Kerry's whupping (BTW the "buzz" about Hillary on DU is equivalent to how Freepers feel about nominating Newt Gingrich for Prez), we should ASSUME she ends up being nominated anyway, THEREFORE we can ANY conservative from a ultra "R" state and just waltz into the White House. Right.

Reminds me of when the Illinois Republican Party was cocky and arrogant enough to run ANOTHER "Ryan" from ultra Republican DuPage county after the last Ryan proved to be a disaster, cuz well, they just KNEW the Dem nominee an unelectable type like Attorney General Roland Burris.

Great strategy. Here in Illinois, it got us Governor Blagojevich.