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Girl Hiding In Leaf Pile Dies After Father Parks Car On Top Of Her
WFTV.com ^ | 11/4/2004 | AP

Posted on 11/05/2004 6:39:04 AM PST by TChris

Edited on 11/05/2004 6:45:36 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

METHUEN, Mass. -- A 10-year-old girl was killed when her father parked his truck in a pile of leaves in which she and a friend were hiding, the family said. The other girl was seriously injured.

Family members said 36-year-old construction worker James Gravel did not know he had run over the girls until he got out and heard daughter Natalie calling him.

"She said, 'Daddy, I can't breathe,"' said Gravel's sister, Jennifer Gravel.

Natalie died at a hospital of head and chest injuries. Eight-year-old Meredith Reid was in critical condition Thursday.

Police said no charges were planned.

Gravel's two other children, ages 11 and 7, were in the truck at the time.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: accident; safety; tragedy; tragic
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To: camle

+1


21 posted on 11/05/2004 6:51:22 AM PST by Jivana108 (Team America F*#k Yeah! Back in time to save the MotherF*#kin day yah....)
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To: beezdotcom

it must have been a very big pile for two ten year olds to hide in. think about it.


22 posted on 11/05/2004 6:52:25 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: TChris
When my husband came home from work last night he told me this news story, he couldn't believe it and wanted to know if I had heard anything 'cuz I'm always on FreeRepublic

I hadn't heard it, but I couldn't believe what he said and I broke down sobbing. I just couldn't stop.

My daughter, when she was younger, used to love to hide out in a pile of leaves to surprise Daddy (never in the street or driveway though).

My heart grieves for his man

23 posted on 11/05/2004 6:53:12 AM PST by coder2
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To: Jivana108

i'd rather the result be that the truck's exhaust system set the dried leaves on fire and burned the truck up. poor kid.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 6:54:03 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: twigs

Well, my son learned the hard way not to park on a pile of leaves. The heat from the catalytic converter set the leaves on fire, which then spread to his car. They had to evacuate part of my neighborhood. Geeze it was stupid and embarrasing and expensive. The article in the newspaper pointed out just how stupid it was to park over dried leaves.

So, this is far more tragic than my case. But a word to the wise is not to park over leaves.


25 posted on 11/05/2004 6:54:27 AM PST by myrabach
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To: TChris

He should have searched, and you should have also:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1271130/posts


26 posted on 11/05/2004 6:54:36 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: missyme

I think it would be very easy, but then we have a lot of trees at our driveway that we haven't raked yet. I just can't imagine a man deliberately running over his child, especially when the situation does not require that I think like that.


27 posted on 11/05/2004 6:55:11 AM PST by twigs
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To: missyme
Exactly, Parking on top of a bunch of leaves? there's something wrong with this situation

It can't just be a tragedy, it has to be someone's fault.

Maybe the dad killed his daughter on purpose, or maybe he hasn't paid a big enough price. Maybe he needs to feel even worse for every moment he lives the rest of his life.

OR,,,,maybe your comment was despicable.

28 posted on 11/05/2004 6:55:17 AM PST by Protagoras (Hillary Clinton, the potential Hitler of our time, is now in position to take over the country.)
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To: camle
wouldn't the trucks catalytic converted pose a serious fire risk parking in a pile of leaves?

If the truck had been running for any time at all, absolutely.

29 posted on 11/05/2004 6:55:36 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: camle

The area around Methuen is heavily wooded. Also, the trees are almost all oak and tend to drop all their leaves within a day or two.

If the wind blow towards his house (as in my parent's case) it's not unusual to get a huge (2-3 ft deep) pile of leaves against a fence or other obstacle.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 6:57:35 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: camle
it must have been a very big pile for two ten year olds to hide in. think about it.

No, it doesn't have to be that big, think about it. I certainly am. I'm thinking that both my kids with a modest covering of leaves would be smaller than most of the windblown piles currently in my yard.

I'm attributing your continued insistance upon arguing this matter to the natural tendency people have to come up with all sorts of reasons why "it can't happen to me". If it makes you feel better, go for it, but I'm acknowledging that it CAN happen to ME. Now, if you feel the need to attack me and tell me why I'm stupid to think so, I can't stop you.
31 posted on 11/05/2004 6:59:28 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: WildTurkey

I did, though not thoroughly enough. Sorry. (See 17 above)


32 posted on 11/05/2004 7:00:02 AM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: Protagoras

I agree, see my post.


33 posted on 11/05/2004 7:02:03 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Protagoras

I am not saying the dad is not suffering but out of stupidity when you have little kids and you can't account for all of them maybe you shouldn't park on a bunch of leaves that are large enough to cover a human being...


34 posted on 11/05/2004 7:02:14 AM PST by missyme
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To: Hoodlum91

been though metheuen a few times, will be going through it again in a few weeks. and whilst i agree that leaves do pile up against fences, etc., a pile big enough to hide not one, but two children has to be significant - even in methuen.

besides, if it's against a fence, why is he parking there int he first place? and a ten year old would certainly make a bump when he parked on her.

i hate to sound cruel, but it is a shame that his kid had to pay for his stupidity.


35 posted on 11/05/2004 7:02:57 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: beezdotcom

it can happen to anybody, but you have to be something to want to park atop a pile of dead leaves. if you do that, it would be handy to have the fire department's number close by.

i have more sense than to park on a pile of leaves.


36 posted on 11/05/2004 7:05:09 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: missyme
I'm sure he would be thankful for you saying that. I'm sure WE all learned something from your calling him stupid and blame gaming him.

God help you if you ever make a mistake, particularly one the ends the life of your child, and effectively yours with it.

I have lots of leaves, and I had little children who used to love to play in them. You turn your back for one single second and tragedy can occur. A child can run into the street or anything else.

You comment was and is despicable. When you are in a hole, stop digging.

37 posted on 11/05/2004 7:08:03 AM PST by Protagoras (Hillary Clinton, the potential Hitler of our time, is now in position to take over the country.)
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To: camle
I refuse to call the father stupid on this one. I don't think I'm overstating things when I say that all of us go through life not usually thinking about everything that could go wrong. There are a hundred reasons why any one of us could have been in nearly the same situation. Maybe there are some of you who are perfectly obervant and cautious, but I'm not.

There, but for the Grace of God, go I...

38 posted on 11/05/2004 7:08:15 AM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: Protagoras; missyme

ease off a bit willya? we're all freepers here.

And she is right he WAS stupid. and it cost his kid her life. the operator fo the vehicle is responsible. if the kid wasn't in the pile of leaves, the truck probably would have started a fire.

parking in a pile of leaves is downright foolish on many fronts. he shoudl have had more sense.

Missyme is right - he WAS stupid.

pray for the child.


39 posted on 11/05/2004 7:10:32 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: camle
i have more sense than to park on a pile of leaves.

Oh goody, you are sensible and he was not. I'm sure he would agree with you that he was wrong, now maybe he will kill himself and you will feel better.

People like you are the reason liberals hate so called conservatives, and for the only time in their lives, they are correct.

40 posted on 11/05/2004 7:10:42 AM PST by Protagoras (Hillary Clinton, the potential Hitler of our time, is now in position to take over the country.)
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