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Coulter: One last flip-flop
TownHall.com ^ | November 4, 2004 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:08 PM PST by RabbitMan

Of course, we could have done it a lot earlier on election night but for "Boy Genius" Karl Rove. It's absurd that the election was as close as it was. If Rove is "the architect" – as Bush called him in his acceptance speech – then he is the architect of high TV ratings, not a Republican victory.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1bitch; 1whining; 2clueless; bunchajealouswhiners; bush; bushvictory; coulter; election; electionday; rove
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To: RabbitMan

The election results speak for themselves.


101 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:05 PM PST by Bullish
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To: E Rocc
"Ann gets paid to be controversial on purpose."

You've got it backwards. She gets paid because she is controversial.

102 posted on 11/04/2004 7:57:05 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: oceanview
My criticism of him still stands - for months, starting during the spring, he allowed the Dems to run alot of hateful 527 ads in the swing states, and did not rebut them. this election didn't need to be this close, it could have been a 5-7% popular vote win, rather then 3%.

Good grief!!! Did you really think our President should be giving daily press releases? He would have been slammed for that and you know it. Polls throughout the campaigns said both sides ran a negative campaign...and the public didn't like it!

You need to quite whining....

103 posted on 11/04/2004 7:58:31 PM PST by Krodg
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To: All

Sorry, disagree Ann.

Rove followed the model he set in play years ago, and fulfilled it. They met their expectations, and exceeded them with the number of senate seats won.

This was a battle against the entire world sugarcoated by the MSM. It is amazing how well he did considering.

I think she needs to take a step back and realize-

1) We would have won earlier in the night if networks would have called his obvious state pick ups.

2) A Nixon or Reagan landslide is great, but a decisive popular vote with increases in the Senate and House is better. If given the choice, which would Reagan or Nixon have chose?

This President is a party builder. To an extent, if one wishes to build a party they incur some personal sacrifice. It's a gamble you take to win the bigger pot.


104 posted on 11/04/2004 7:58:43 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Lancey Howard
Ann is right. I can't believe John Kerry got as many votes as he did. Back when the Iowa caucuses were going on I understood that it was Kerry that the Bush campaign was secretly hoping would win the nomination because he was such a weak candidate due to his treasonous actions and weak senatorial record. You guys don't have a clue how much of a tool this guy really is unless he has been your senator for the last ten years. Anyone I know who has had to contact a senator's office for any kind of assistance has always had to call Ted Kennedy's office because Kerry is never around. The Bush campaign never should have let him get this close. What about his trashing of Ronald Regan? Not a word of it mentioned.
105 posted on 11/04/2004 7:59:03 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: RabbitMan
I strongly disagree. I think Rove kept Bush in this race in the face of an enormous onslaught from the MSM, Hollywood, Michael Moore, et al.

I have been telling anyone who might be listening that I think Rove is luckier than he will ever be good, so it's no surprise that I strongly agree! This is the first time that I have been in 100% complete agreement with Ann in the post-9/11 era (when she made the unfortunate statement about killing Muslim nations' leaders and "converting" their populace to Christianity).

I don't think it was Rove that kept Bush in the race, it was Bush supporters in The New Media. I think we would be bemoaning the 24-hour-a-day MSM Kerry Celebration without the Swifties, Fox News Channel, Rush, Sean, Drudge, Savage, Laura Ingraham, Jim Taranto, Powerline and other assorted bloggers, and, of course, Free Republic (lift your glasses to Buckhead!).

I can't be the only one who felt like Rove let others do the hard work of beating back the MSM/Hollywood assault while he kept Bush "on message" so tenaciously that he was really becoming kind of boring. It was as if Rove thought Bush wasn't a big boy, and couldn't blunt Kerry's half-truths head on (most notably Bush's refusal to contradict Kerry on the "firing" of Gen. Shinseki), instead relying on Rush to straighten out the story the following morning.

106 posted on 11/04/2004 8:00:32 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Wow, Bill Jones sure gave Babs Boxer a run for her money, didn't he? </sarcasm>)
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To: unspun
"Groups like Focus on the Family, Family Research Council, Concerned Women for America, American Family Association, Center for Reclaiming America, etc. etc. etc"

I do believe these groups existed before Karl Rove came to town and will likely be there after he leaves.
107 posted on 11/04/2004 8:00:42 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: oceanview
for months, starting during the spring, he allowed the Dems to run alot of hateful 527 ads in the swing states, and did not rebut them.

I think he was counting on the short attention span of the average voter, and blew the money late in the race. I mean, there must be a lot of voters who vote based on the last convincing TV propaganda ad they saw, or the number of Bush/Cheney or or Kerry/Edwards signs they saw erected on peoples' lawns. Otherwise, why bother with all that? People ought to be voting on who these people are, based on their record, their past history, but....

108 posted on 11/04/2004 8:00:56 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: RabbitMan

I agree with Ann that Rove should've had Bush come out stronger on the gay marriage fiasco. He should have stumped about the anarchy America experienced as Democrat politicians on both coasts ignored the rule of law and declared, all by themselves, that gay marriage would now be legal. Ann doesn't mention this, but Move On actually had at least one commercial in the can which depicted gays touching and kissing one another. Imagine how offensive that would be in a national campaign! Even the dimwits knew that they couldn't air it, but Rove let that pass too.

I disagree with Ann that the partial birth abortion card should have been played to a heavier extent. The ban is on shaky ground in the minds of many because there is no exception for the health of the mother - stumping for the ban as written carried risk, unlike the gay marriage issue.

I also can't believe Ann said on Scarborough Country that she was feeling sorry for Yasser Arafat. Morphine and a respirator is much too good for the likes of him.


109 posted on 11/04/2004 8:03:03 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: RabbitMan

Rove is dishonest, stupid and blundering. No campaign is a one man show. Without Rove, Bush may have gotten 60%

Ann Coulter, despite being a Bush groupie, demonstrates her common sense once again.

But then, I'm an Ann Coulter groupie...


110 posted on 11/04/2004 8:06:34 PM PST by PhatHead
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To: Krodg
this election didn't need to be this close, it could have been a 5-7% popular vote win, rather then 3%.

With the MSM against him, trying to recover, economically, from the fallout of the popping of the CLinton/Greenpsan stock markte bubble, with Soros et al spending a fortune of money, and the corrupt democratic machine printing votes overtime, Rove won this thing and picked up a solid majority in the house and the senate. Just exactly how much defeat does Anne want to snatch from the jaws of victory.

Finally we have beaten the monster. We didn't beat it because we ran a better campaign, or Bush had better hair, or, or. We one because they are so corrupt and irrelevant that even all of the plusses could not save them. Now we need to slay the monster before its poison does any more harm. We need to pass election reform laws requiring honest registration, identification and vote counting.

111 posted on 11/04/2004 8:06:36 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: RabbitMan
I strongly disagree. I think Rove kept Bush in this race in the face of an enormous onslaught from the MSM, Hollywood, Michael Moore, et al.

In one way, I agree with you: Ann should not disparage Rove, who has a winning record that is the envy of political consultants.

Where I disagree with you is in how you didn't address Ann's complaint: Rove did not permit Bush to stump openly for the Defense of Marriage and Partial-Birth Abortion issues. That is a valid complaint on Ann's part. Bush could have benefited by more aggressively attaching himself to the 'Moral Values' issues.

113 posted on 11/04/2004 8:08:38 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: RabbitMan

Rove is quite bright.


114 posted on 11/04/2004 8:09:34 PM PST by wardaddy (The only thing we share with collectivists and ragheads is death.)
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To: Andy'smom
Ann is right. I can't believe John Kerry got as many votes as he did.

Funny... folks on the left are saying the same thing about Bush. It's like that old liberal journalist from New York who couldn't believe Nixon won, because nobody she knew voted for him.

Pop your head out of the Free Republic echo chamber. The libs are a minority, but there are still plenty of them out there and enough others who, like my mom, appreciate a lot of things about Bush but couldn't bring themselves to vote for him.

Did Bush get more votes than any presidential candidate in history? Yep. Know who got the second most? Kerry. We aren't a red state country just yet, my friend.

115 posted on 11/04/2004 8:09:45 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: E Rocc
I noticed that the folks who swung the election put morals, not legalizing prostitution and dope, as a top issue. Libertinians are the mercenary element of the GOP; if the Dems would offer them a few bucks in tax cuts, they'd cut and run.
116 posted on 11/04/2004 8:10:26 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Batrachian
Ann is 100% correct in mocking Rove for not pushing the gay marriage issue. I was extremely concerned and disgusted that this was not a major part of his campaign in those states where bans were on the ballot, particularly and especially in Ohio. As it turned out, every state with the ban on the ballot passed overwhelmingly, and there is no excuse for not bringing this issue up more.

On a related note, there are several threads (rightly) discussing our concern over Specter's comments today. With the President's decision to back off the moral issues during the election, how confident are you guys that he'll stand up to Specter or put conservative judges on the Supreme Court? Forget calling Frist and your local Senator - if Bush doesn't want Specter to be chairman, he won't be there, regardless of what others say or do. And with Bush's campaigning for Specter, I'm not counting on Specter being prevented from assuming the chairmanship.

117 posted on 11/04/2004 8:10:47 PM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, son of Jor-el!)
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To: radicalamericannationalist
I do believe these groups existed before Karl Rove came to town and will likely be there after he leaves.

And they were never designed to be effective in electoral politics. Just look at their IRS statuses.

118 posted on 11/04/2004 8:11:04 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: RabbitMan

And don't forget....HUGE GAINS IN THE SENATE!


119 posted on 11/04/2004 8:12:49 PM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: RabbitMan

she ought to be happy ,,,, she doesn't have to move out of ny now


120 posted on 11/04/2004 8:13:03 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish.)
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