Posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:56 PM PST by M. Peach
I thought I had all the answers regarding politics until my one of my teen aged sons asked me (and yes, I'm proud to say both of them are conservative) why large cities tend to vote Democrat, and rural areas - or mostly the rest of the country, Republican?
Can I get some opinions out there?
I'm going to dodge your question, but make a related comment.
The urban-rural divide implies that a better system of government for the United States would be a decentralized federal country partitioned into urban-rural districts, rather than the existing division of states.
Because Urban areas have less Oxygen and therefore can't think as clearly.
Actually, it can be traced back to WELFARE. Welfare created a dependency amongst the lowest economic strata. Back in the 60's during the civil rights movement, white guilt allowed the handouts to become a way of life for blacks. Welfare also encouraged the breakdown of black families (the more kids the bigger the check). When dependent on welfare, its a lot easier to live in center city USA due to lack of car ownership and the convenience that cities offer.
As crime went up in major cities, white plight took money and small businesses out of the cities. The population left behind were mostly government-dependent people. They elected local "leaders" that promised more government programs and handouts - there's nothing like voting yourself a raise and a few more bennies.
Nationally, the democrats latched onto blacks as a voting block. Today we have race pimps Sharpton and Jackson. The democrats as a party have made race baiting and exploitation of the social achievement gap an artform. So if you are in the lower economic strata and are told from the day you are born that your situation is what it is because of whitey, big business, big oil etc., you will vote for the people that allegedly are looking out for you.
amen -- and it's a good thing to be interreliant, but a bad thing to be so slavishly.
That was a pretty bold essay that's hard to disagree with - You don't mince words, do you? I laughed when I read it, however even though I resemble one of the categories you mentioned - your candor is refreshing.
Is that you A+bert? Are you back again?
Get the federal gov't out of the school business like it used to be.. and America will right itself.. ignorance breeds traitors and where there is a lot of traitors there will be many to others "service them".. (Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Arlen Spectre, Jim Jeffords, Dan Rather, Tom Dascle and so many others the list could be a library of categorys), there are some others reasons ALL bought to you by your "friendly" local democrat party.. and a few republicans too..
I am quite impressed with your analysis. Well written also. I think you have nailed the 'New York' style ward boss' mentality of the democratic machine. Terry McCaufilie is nothing more than a modern day "Boss Tweed". For those of you who aren't familiar here is a snippit worth reading.
'While political corruption had been a problem in the Democratic party since its founding, the activities of Tweed and his associates went far beyond the petty graft of his predecessors, and soon could not be ignored. The New York Times, then a Republican paper, began raising such impertinent questions as how Tweed could afford a town house on Fifth Avenue, an estate in Greenwich, all on his $2500 a year Street Commissioner's salary. Times cartoonist Thomas Nast mercilessly attacked Tweed in political cartoons. The Tweed scandals were a great blow to Tammany Hall, the Democratic Party, and more generally to the NYC. The City's home rule charter was quickly revoked and its ability to govern itself was hampered for the next sixty years. And Democratic reformers for the first time beat the machine. However the reform movement could never hold on to govern mainly because it came from two dramatically opposite factions 1. Wealthy businesses seeking to reduce taxes. 2. Social and labor reformers seeking to increase social services and business regulations.'
Hmmm..Democrats - weren't those guys the ones who owned a bunch of slaves way back when?
Just sayin'.
Forgot to post the attribution for the snippit in my previous post.
http://www.midtownmedia.com/ndc/Civilwar.html
Not quite so ...
Make an ordered list of the states which net plus of their federal tax dollar, and it will (I suspect) strongly mesh with the percentage Bush won. That is the BLUE areas are the burdened dolers, the RED are the lighter burdened dolees.
And why do you think, Einstein, that one of the biggest groups of Freepers come from urban California?
LOL! You forgot to mention that damned rap music.
Concentration of minorities and welfare whores.
Thus democrats can be found in centers of low IQ.
They sure as hell don't think that. Check this reply I got on a mailing earlier today from one of the cogs. The arrogance and hubris is blood boiling. I shall thrash them mercilessly soon enough... BTW, my sister-in-law thinks like this too, and she's a TEACHER!!!
I must confess that I was always pessimistic about the chance of unseating Bush and the boys. I taught college for years, supposedly exposed to the more educated of the country, and I know that cause and effect relationships elude most people. I learned from my years teaching, that a large majority do not know how to look at evidence and draw conclusions. Simply put, you will never beat God and guns, feelings and faith, by presenting facts and analysis of situations. Rove knew that. Kerry and others didn't.Keep on thinking. Regards from the Wavewidow
Than you, DoughtyOne, for the most reasoned response!
Democrats are basically lazy.
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"Your theory is ignorant and just plain stupid."
BunnySlippers - I'm sure he was being facetious - you really couldn't take that comment seriously.
There's a lot MORE hard-working paycheck-to-paycheck regular folks in the cities than all those categories you listed combined, afaict.
Reds crave independence.
Blues crave dependence.
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