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Sullivan claims Kerry Really Won!!!
The Daily Dish ^ | 11/3/04 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 11/03/2004 4:21:13 PM PST by M 91 u2 K

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To: jackbill

Nah, he will now become a cupcake of the left.


21 posted on 11/03/2004 4:30:53 PM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: M 91 u2 K

Oh, and Bush did not come out in favor of civil unions necessarily. He said that he did not want to ban them, but he did want to leave it to the state legislatures. One day maybe Bush will realize that there isn't a dimes worth of difference between gay marriage and civil unions, but it doesn't matter. As long as the courts get out of play then we can manage this issue just fine.


22 posted on 11/03/2004 4:31:42 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

The Democrats' attempted coup managed to last all of eight hours.......

Or, Kerry confused and shell shocked, dithered over conceding for 8 or 9 hours. He just couldn't reach a decision even though faced with irrefutable facts..

W on the other hand delayed a mere 7 minutes on 911 and swung into confident action.


23 posted on 11/03/2004 4:31:43 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: M 91 u2 K
Not only did Kerry win by an 86-13 margin among self-described liberals, he also won by a 55-45 margin among self-described moderates.

"Moderates" ARE liberals. They just can't bring themselves to admit it.

24 posted on 11/03/2004 4:32:39 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

memo to homos: you've come out. congratulations. now go back in.


25 posted on 11/03/2004 4:33:14 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Casloy

Listened to Howard Stern too long; they start to believe the Kool-aid the hear. First step decent judges, second step neuter the ACLU.


26 posted on 11/03/2004 4:34:30 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: M 91 u2 K

Homosexuality is still a mental illness characterized by paranoid feelings!


27 posted on 11/03/2004 4:35:18 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: Arizona Carolyn
First step decent judges, second step neuter the ACLU.

And that's only the beginning.

28 posted on 11/03/2004 4:36:43 PM PST by Casloy
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To: M 91 u2 K
A MANDATE FOR CULTURE WAR: That's Bill Bennett's conclusion. He won't be the only one. What we're seeing, I think, is a huge fundamentalist Christian revival in this country, a religious movement that is now explicitly political as well. It is unsurprising, of course, given the uncertainty of today's world, the devastating attacks on our country, and the emergence of so many more liberal cultures in urban America. And it is completely legitimate in this country for such views to be represented in public policy, however much I disagree with them. But the intensity of the passion, and the inherently totalist nature of religiously motivated politics means deep social conflict if we are not careful. Our safety valve must be federalism.


This is why I voted for GW. The "intensity of the passion" is the thing that has made us (conservatives, Christians, Jews, moralists, right-wingers, whatever the label....) realize that we have to take action against the deterioration of the foundations that our country was built on. How many times does it have to be said before liberals understand???? Idealogy is not a trump card for moral fortitude.
29 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:02 PM PST by fzzywzzy
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To: M 91 u2 K

In no particular order, these are some factors I've decided had something to do with our victory in 2004, not only for President, but the Congress (increase in both House and Senate)....

9-11.

The War on Terror: Afghanistan votes, even women! Iraq:
Saddam is captured & facing trial, his sons dead. No WMD but the UN says they were moved before the war, and uhm... are those BABIES BONES IN THOSE MASS GRAVES?

2000. That whole mandate thing? It p.o'd a lot of people. Not just dems. It made people think "SO even if i know my state won't vote Bush (CA for instance), my vote matters." Plus Gore couldn't shut up about being ripped off.

The Passion of the Christ.

Ronald Reagan going home.

Swift Vets, Stolen Honor and Vietnam Veterans nationwide.

Kerry. "Anybody But Bush" isn't a ringing endorsement. Plus he has WAY too many REAL skeletons to hide and answer for. Still.

The CA recall. Wasted momentum in this state, IMO, but it showed people voting works.

Teresa. Noone could really picture her as First Lady. She speaks with the elite (tongues) but her behavior is bourgeois.

Soros & the Legions. You want to win the center, you don't go calling the President a Nazi, comparing him to Hitler, or calling our soldiers murderers. That's no way to win people over to your side.

That is my quick summary. I know there are more, but that's what's been going through my mind watching this election.


30 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:36 PM PST by cgk (Thank you, God for answered prayers.)
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To: M 91 u2 K
and that they won't have gays to kick around for ever

Whats with this? Does he have aids?

31 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:50 PM PST by Joe Miner
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To: M 91 u2 K
"The GOP's weak spot is that they aren't winning over the young; and that they won't have gays to kick around for ever."

Wonder where the gays will vanish to?

32 posted on 11/03/2004 4:39:03 PM PST by SierraWasp (Discredited Democrats... Concede already!!! Discredited MSM... Project already!!! New Media Rules!!!)
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To: M 91 u2 K
I am a 25 year-old gay man, and I can't even describe how saddened I am today by the re-election of President Bush and the numerous state amendments banning gay marriage that were passed on election day. I'm not really angry... just very sad and afraid. I don't know what country I live in anymore.

How can so many people be so wrong, all the time ...sob....handwring

33 posted on 11/03/2004 4:40:57 PM PST by pfflier
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To: M 91 u2 K
Sullivan shows the dangers of what happens when you let Sexuality takes over your life!

Sullivan shows the dangers of what happens when you let Sexual Perversion take over your life!

34 posted on 11/03/2004 4:43:38 PM PST by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Did these people ever stop to consider that it wasn't so much the gay marriage issue that people reacted to, it was the way gay activists attempted to shove it down our throats through the courts?

I am against gay marriage for many reasons, but I fully believe in and support having the discussion and deciding as a community/nation what direction we will take. The use of the few courts across the country to change what is an important social and religious institution is what infuriated me personally. As much as gays believe their rights are being interfered with, they don't understand that their actions are an attempt to take away my voice in the matter.

I think a lot of people feel like I do and that's why a lot of people voted for Bush.


35 posted on 11/03/2004 4:46:30 PM PST by ShandaLear (Vindication in mine, sayeth the Dubya!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Sullivan has definitely left the reservation, following in the footsteps of Arianna Huffington...


36 posted on 11/03/2004 4:47:08 PM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: M 91 u2 K

Sullivan will find it very lonely as a pundit now.

The conservatives will scorn him for having deserted Dubya over gay marriage.

The liberals will never really accept him, even if he claims to be a born again liberal converted from conservatism.

His blogspot is probably doomed as a financial success because no one will go there.


37 posted on 11/03/2004 4:47:47 PM PST by wildbill
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To: M 91 u2 K

Strictly for accuracy's sake, he does not say Kerry really won.


38 posted on 11/03/2004 4:48:06 PM PST by mlo
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To: M 91 u2 K

He must be using Zogby polls :)


39 posted on 11/03/2004 4:50:01 PM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla
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To: M 91 u2 K
Sullivan is on dope, the dope.


40 posted on 11/03/2004 4:50:33 PM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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