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BOOKIES SAY HILLARY FAVORITE FOR 2008
Newsmax ^ | 11/3/04

Posted on 11/03/2004 11:28:53 AM PST by areafiftyone

Britain's Scotsman reports that Hillary Clinton today was named favorite to win the next U.S. presidential vote in 2008 after George Bush won re-election to the White House.

The wife of former President Bill Clinton was installed at 5-to-1 odds by the betting agency Ladbrokes and 6-to-1 by William Hill to take over from Bush after his second term.

Bush was Ladbrokes' favorite for the whole of the election campaign. It's estimated that some 8 million pounds was spent wagering the U.S. election.

Ladbrokes has Hillary Clinton at 5-1 followed by former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani at 7-1 and Kerry running mate John Edwards at 8-1.


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I'm thinking Watts also. Watts against Hitlery? What an election that would be!


141 posted on 11/03/2004 12:12:16 PM PST by brazos.357
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To: JLS

our party has not done a great jobs of grooming candidates for 2008. Jeb is good, but the "Bush dynasty" thing hurts him. He would be good for 2012 or 2016, why waste him on a 2008 bid.


142 posted on 11/03/2004 12:12:45 PM PST by oceanview
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To: areafiftyone
Well if its a choice between Guiliani and Frist (whom the Repubs are already pushing) I will choose Guiliani any day!

I don't want Frist to run either, and I agree that Giulliani could possibly have a better chance of getting elected, but that's really irrelevant. I don't support conservative morals for the sake of getting republicans elected, but rather I presently support republicans because they are best in line with my traditional values. The minute the repubs quit doing that is the minute that a whole lot of Christians get up and find a different party (obviously not democrat either).

I am not willing to compromise on morals for the sake of increasing the likelihood of getting a republican in office.
143 posted on 11/03/2004 12:13:27 PM PST by newguy357
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To: nutmeg

"I predict that Hillary and Barack Obama will emerge as the RAT superstars by 2008..."

I would think that the Dems learned last night that two ultra-liberal senators won't fly. Let's hope they didn't. In which case, Rudy & Condi 2008. Boy, I wish Dick Cheney would run, though.


144 posted on 11/03/2004 12:15:37 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: oceanview
When I look at potential presidential candidates like this, I use a fairly simple process in which I start at a very optimistic level and work my way down.

Let's suppose, for the sake of the argument, that Rudy Giuliani were to start the 2008 primary season as the uncontested GOP nominee for the White House -- and that he's popular enough that he has a 70% "approval" rating among the general public. From that 70%, we would have to make the following adjustments:

1. Subtract 5% (minimum) right off the bat for his political philosophy, which is just slightly to the right of John Kerry on most issues.

2. Subtract 3% for each of the following three (admittedly superficial, but very important) physical impediments -- his height (he's very short), his baldness (there has never been a bald president in the television age), and his speech pattern (he has a minor lisp).

3. Subtract 4% for the fact that he's got a vowel at the end of his name (no "ethnic" has ever been elected President).

4. Subtract 5% (again, this is a bare minimum) for the fact that he's not only an "ethnic" -- he's an Italian-American from New York (there hasn't been a New Yorker on a successful national ticket since FDR was elected in 1944).

5. Subtract 5% for all the media coverage that will be given to his silly cross-dressing escapades in that off-Broadway show while he was mayor of New York.

The way I see it, Rudy Giuliani gets trounced in 2008 -- he'll win 42% of the popular vote.

145 posted on 11/03/2004 12:18:43 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: JLS

Colorado's Bill Owens.


146 posted on 11/03/2004 12:19:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I have seen Bill Owens mentioned. I wonder if Colorado is a big enough state? It is smaller than GA now. I wonder if GA had about 9 EVs in 1980?


147 posted on 11/03/2004 12:21:32 PM PST by JLS
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To: Alberta's Child

Hmmm you have a point. Maybe (and this is a big maybe) he will run for Governor of NY and then try for president in 2008.


148 posted on 11/03/2004 12:22:35 PM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: oceanview
I agree with that statement. I've predicted that he'll end up as either the Attorney General or the Director of Homeland Security in the second Bush term.

That doesn't make him any more viable a Presidential candidate, mind you -- in fact, it would effectively be the closest he ever gets to the White House.

149 posted on 11/03/2004 12:22:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: Clioman

GUILIANI AND ASHCROFT IN 2008!!






I could never vote for a ticket with Ashcroft on it. Period.


150 posted on 11/03/2004 12:23:09 PM PST by Mordichia
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To: Antoninus

That team is something to think about. My husband has loved J.C. ever since he was at OU.


151 posted on 11/03/2004 12:25:42 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: areafiftyone
I really do not think that his health is going to allow active politics. I call that Divine intervention.
152 posted on 11/03/2004 12:27:52 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: areafiftyone
If Giuliani were to run for governor of New York in 2006, and then run for President in 2008, I predict he won't even carry New York in 2008.

Something to keep in mind here is this: If you go back over the last couple of decades and look at the political landscape on the day after a Presidential election, you'll find that the opposing candidate in the next Presidential election was usually nowhere to be seen on the horizon.

How many people were predicting in 1988 that Bill Clinton would be the Democrat nominee in 1992? Or in 1996 that George W. Bush would be the GOP nominee in 2000? How many were predicting in 2000 that Kerry would be the Democrat nominee in 2004?

153 posted on 11/03/2004 12:29:35 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: newguy357
F is my Senator, but I do not think that he is forceful enough. I am not a one issue voter, but from 1 to 10 morals are a big 10. That is one of the reasons that I love George Bush so much, even though I wish that he would use that line item veto more often or at all.
154 posted on 11/03/2004 12:33:02 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: BRITinUSA
GUILIANI and RICE in 2008

That sounds nice, but only if a Chafee/Spector ticket seems unattainable.

155 posted on 11/03/2004 12:33:10 PM PST by ChuckK
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To: oceanview
He also is not a good husband and father. He has dumped 2 wives, and brought the current one into the mayor's mansion, while he was still married to Donna Hanover. I have no respect for him or Newt as a man, let a long a President and Commander in Chief of this country.
156 posted on 11/03/2004 12:36:29 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: mariabush

Make that Frist.


157 posted on 11/03/2004 12:40:55 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: mariabush

Reagan was also divorced.


158 posted on 11/03/2004 12:45:33 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Divorce is not neccesiarly the issue. How a man treat his wife is. If he is devoted and loving husband I will guarantee that he will treat this country right.
159 posted on 11/03/2004 12:49:06 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: areafiftyone

Shep Smith is already counting down the days to the 08 election. I kid you not. Stock market is up over 100 points today and they just won't admit the market likes GWB. Oh, noooooo. The market is just relieved to have this election over. Funny, it tanked when they thought Kerry was winning yesterday. It peaked today when Bush made his victory speech. Coincidence? I think not. Now their on the uniter, not a divider kick again.


160 posted on 11/03/2004 1:04:11 PM PST by beckysueb (We won! WhooHoo!!!!!)
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