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This is the saddest quote I may have ever read (election-related):

Posted on 11/03/2004 7:43:08 AM PST by AuburnJenn

"It's definitely the war," said Eliana Deutsch, 20, of San Diego, explaining why she came out. "People see these soldiers who are 18 and don't have an education, and they're over there dying. It's really sad that that (the military) is their best option."

This makes me irate. What a spoiled brat. Most of our service men are highly educated (ever heard of West Point?) I had several close friends in college who CHOSE to join the military. I think it is an intelligent, BRAVE choice to join the service. I am just lost for words right now. What nerve....and she is not much younger than me. Sickening.


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To: Only1choice____Freedom
One of my son's best friends graduated from high school this past June, enlisted in the Marines and just graduated from boot camp two weeks ago. His reasons for joining were (all his reasons, paraphrased by me):

1. He wanted to give something back to a country that allowed such freedom of speech and religion as we have.
2. He could be productive to his country and society right out of high school.
3. He would get money for college.
4. He will learn job skills immediately while getting paid for it.
5. Eventually he will be the guardian of his younger sister (2 yrs old) who is Downs syndrom, and he will be able to provide for her care after their parents are gone.

He came to talk to us several months ago about his decision, and I was impressed that an 18 year old exhibited such maturity. I am proud of him and so thankful that he and thousands like him volunteer to defend this country and keep it safe. That 20-year old nitwit from San Diego may someday realize that it is a Marine like my son's friend who guarantees her right to speak her mind.

41 posted on 11/03/2004 8:00:57 AM PST by RightField (The older you get ... the older "old" is !)
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To: ElectricStrawberry
MS Deutsch, 20, of San Diego doesn't have an education.

Having said that, Just because some one has a GED doesn't reflect lack of intelligence. It usually means that individual burnt out on the politically correct modernist Pablum the public school teach these days.
42 posted on 11/03/2004 8:02:54 AM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: AuburnJenn

"People see these soldiers who are 18 and don't have an education, and they're over there dying. It's really sad that that (the military) is their best option."

This is pathetic. I don't think our soldiers want your sympathy, woman - just your support. She makes our soldiers sound like these hapless, hopeless victims who have no choice - they are forced to leave their homes, serve and die. She denies them all the HONOR and RESPECT due them because they have chosen to leave their families and risk their lives to keep us all safe.

And if this were how she really felt - she should have the same overwhelming sympathy for our veterans. 10:1 she don't...


43 posted on 11/03/2004 8:03:33 AM PST by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: AuburnJenn
She's right and she's wrong. I am a U.S Navy veteran, Gunner's Mate E-5. I quit High School at 16 and a half and went to boot camp the minute I turned 17. Because of the Navy, I now hold a Master's degree which I earned with a 4.0 GPA and I am currently entertaining pursuing a Phd. Yes, the Navy was my only real option and I am proud of my service and will never forget what the Navy did for me. They taught me a true a work ethic and respect and to this day I will do EVERYTHING in my power to support the Navy - including voting against Kerry, who was a blemish on our service.

If you Ain't Tin Can, You Ain't ****
44 posted on 11/03/2004 8:03:43 AM PST by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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To: AuburnJenn
I am so overjoyed that President Bush won re-election. My husband is currently deployed, he will not be home for Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years or our daughters birthday. Do you think he is complaining? Do you think I am complaining? Do you think I blame Bush? Well the answer to those questions is "NO", we blame the Clinton Admin for the lack of focus on the terrorists while they were in office?
People need to understand that joining the military is a choice that the members make of their own will. I am just happy that there is no need for my husband to get out of the NAVY in 2 years since Kerry was not elected!
45 posted on 11/03/2004 8:03:56 AM PST by sailors_wife (Being a Navy Wife is the Toughest Job in the Navy!!!!!)
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To: Jay Howard Smith; Tragically Single

I guess I should just clarify my statement.

I can only speak for what I saw in the 90's army infantry enlisted.....and us Sarnts and Sarnt wannabes did not have college degrees...most of us.

That may have changed since I separated....and the other MOSs and branches of service are probably much different.


46 posted on 11/03/2004 8:03:57 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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To: TrojanMan
Trojan, I'm a QMC(SW) and I'm teaching navigation just across the river at SUNY Maritime.

And don't forget, the Navy needs chiefs more then it needs 36 year old JOs.
47 posted on 11/03/2004 8:04:07 AM PST by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: RightField
I am proud of him and so thankful that he and thousands like him volunteer to defend this country and keep it safe.

America is made with men like these. God bless your son's friend.

48 posted on 11/03/2004 8:04:52 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Anyone who calls Moore a Dumb $#$@$ is okay with me." -areafiftyone)
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To: AuburnJenn
What a brainless twit. I think SHE is the one without an education!

Yes -- many of the officers and enlisted men/women have had educations, but how many of the unlisted -- right our of high school---- have we seen interviewed during the two fronts of this war, who are bright, articulate, and wonderful examples of our youth?

This girl needs her own special class.

49 posted on 11/03/2004 8:04:57 AM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: gljones

Your also refused entry if you have a criminal record. I got my education in the USN. Learned how fix $56,000,000 airplanes and now in civilian life, hold an engineering position without holding an engineering degree.


50 posted on 11/03/2004 8:05:05 AM PST by hiramknight
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To: goarmy

Really? Not that I doubt your word, but I was told otherwise.


51 posted on 11/03/2004 8:05:54 AM PST by pubmom (Suffering from DITS (Democrat induced tourette's syndrome)since 1992.)
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To: AuburnJenn

she's an ignoramous.


52 posted on 11/03/2004 8:05:59 AM PST by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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To: AuburnJenn

What an ignorant, social bigoted twit! Bet she thinks she is really smart, reads thick books and looks down on people who get their hands dirty.

Idiot.


53 posted on 11/03/2004 8:06:31 AM PST by najida (Thank you God for hearing and answering.)
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To: AuburnJenn

Please tell Eliana for me that when I was a poor boy attending West Point in the late 60's - I was taught the following: "Some people remain silent and are thought to be ignorant, while some others speak and take away all doubt! Eliana should get a little experience in the world before offering her misguided utterances.


54 posted on 11/03/2004 8:06:56 AM PST by USMA '71
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To: hiramknight

Oh yeah, I also worked on the Space Shuttle for 3.5 years. I qualified for the job based on my Navy education.


55 posted on 11/03/2004 8:07:23 AM PST by hiramknight
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To: KacieLSU

Don't worry about your friend. He would consider the source of those assinine words from a silly young woman who has no clue of what she speaks. God bless your friend. We're USAFA but....we love West Point and Annapolis. j :)


56 posted on 11/03/2004 8:07:37 AM PST by cubreporter (-I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers.)
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To: JesseJane

Not only a high school certificate, but they prefer several years of college under your belt and send you to lots of classes after you get in -- depending upon your job. My nephew-in-law has a degree in Civil Engineering and joined the Air Force. THese are sharp guys.

I suspect that the young lady quoted certainly has rather an insular education herself.


57 posted on 11/03/2004 8:08:16 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic (Re-elect Dubya)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

[[And don't forget, the Navy needs chiefs more then it needs 36 year old JOs.]]

It doesn't hurt me to admit that you're right. We all know who really runs things... and it's exactly the people this girl has no faith in. It makes me feel a lot better knowing who's really in charge.


58 posted on 11/03/2004 8:08:50 AM PST by TrojanMan
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To: AuburnJenn
"It's definitely the war," said Eliana Deutsch, 20, of San Diego, explaining why she came out. "People see these soldiers who are 18 and don't have an education, and they're over there dying. It's really sad that that (the military) is their best option."

this was said back in the late 60's by liberals
...just another excuse!! and another example of liberal
blah!!!. A 20 year old who repeats what her liberal college
professor discusses in class.


Doogle
59 posted on 11/03/2004 8:08:51 AM PST by Doogle (USAF..4077thTFW...Wolf Pack...408MMS ....Ubon,Thailand in "69" Night Line Delivery.AMMO)
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To: mandingo republican

yes Churchill said that- and he is full of crap. Human beings are capable of thought long before their twenties. My daughters (ten and eleven years old) have got it figured out. They had a tough several months going to school in liberal Illinois and listening to an overwhelming majority of classmates spout Democrat talking points. All the mock elections went hugely for Kerry. They took major heat for being in such a small minority. But my girls gave it right back!

I'll tell you what- they have never been so eager and excited to get to school as they were this morning!! This is a fabulous day.


60 posted on 11/03/2004 8:09:54 AM PST by getitright (GWB is winning wars, not popularity contests.)
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