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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-One

Posted on 11/03/2004 12:20:59 AM PST by nwctwx

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To: judicial meanz

Could this be the boat they launched secretly? The one we knew nothing about until it hit the water?

Elint is still a possibility. We don't know how much they gleaned from our aircraft. Three years is enough time to implement.

One more thought; it may be actively comms disruptive based on the same info from our aircraft.


2,901 posted on 11/10/2004 2:29:28 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: JellyJam

Yep.
Almost Thanksgiving...


2,902 posted on 11/10/2004 2:30:15 PM PST by Cindy
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To: lahargis

Yep.


http://www.islah100.org/vboard/showthread.php?t=116628


2,903 posted on 11/10/2004 2:31:16 PM PST by Cindy
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To: judicial meanz; Cindy
I started with the thread the first one or two.. guess I never was on ping list & then got VERY busy/overwhelmed with the campaign.

I recall how much I enjoyed the Situation room threads during the March on Baghdad & beginning of war.

Winter might provide some more time to play catch up.
2,904 posted on 11/10/2004 2:31:56 PM PST by DollyCali (Winning isn't everything. But losing really sucks. Sorry sKerry. You're a loser in all respects.)
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To: HipShot

Thats a distinct possibility.

They seem to have 1980's era gear on them and are roughly equivalent to our old Permit class submarine's, except they are seriously loud.

The French helped the Chinese put them together, so they cant be much. Wonder how well they would stand a depth charging..LOL


2,905 posted on 11/10/2004 2:35:58 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz
I know less than nothing about the navy and naval tactics, so this is just a shot in the dark. Might they be probing for response times or force structure in the responses? If you see what I mean? Kind of like:

Gee we wandered around their waters for about ten hours now and they've just shown up with a destroyer task force and antisubmarine aircraft overhead. ~Writing, scribble scribble~ Okay, let's BUG OUT before they drop depth charges!

2,906 posted on 11/10/2004 2:38:53 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Cindy

Hey, not a problem. Looks like typical propoganda stuff, but I don't read arabic.

I don't know how they accomplish anything -- they must spend a good bit of time in photoshop to get all these stupid pics out...


2,907 posted on 11/10/2004 2:40:03 PM PST by kimmie7 (<)))><)
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To: Cindy

Yep. That's it. Any clue as to the meaning?


2,908 posted on 11/10/2004 2:42:48 PM PST by kimmie7 (<)))><)
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To: ExSoldier

"Might they be probing for response times or force structure in the responses?"

Could be, the good lord knows we submariners love to probe......


2,909 posted on 11/10/2004 2:43:40 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: ExSoldier

Thats a very good possibility, but the big picture would dictate they would get all the information they can before doing a hiyaki and running.

I think they were logging aircraft, troop and ship movements from Okinawa, and had been there for some time. Counter-detection and detection was definitely part of the game, in my opinion.


Worst case scenario for them is to be depth charged to the surface and the surviving crew (if there is any) tried for espionage....but it wont happen.

Best case is they will be tracked back to port and a formal complain lodged against the Chinese govt.


2,910 posted on 11/10/2004 2:46:40 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz

The days of hardwiring taps into underwater phone lines are long past.

I wonder if it was a test.


2,911 posted on 11/10/2004 2:48:49 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: HipShot

It had to be Hipshot....

ELINT gathering is my opinion....and testing


2,912 posted on 11/10/2004 2:51:59 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: HipShot

shhhhhhhhh!

Only the one in the Sea of Okhotsk got really publicized. :) God Bless the boys in Subdevgruone and Parche.


2,913 posted on 11/10/2004 2:54:08 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: ExSoldier; judicial meanz

Whoops. I should have read the thread before responding to my ping.

They may be recording elint to test their new toys. They may be up by enough to be in the ballpark.

The more I think about it though, elint seems the least likely. It doesn't take a boat to record data bursts.

I think I'll side with you on the probe, ExSoldier.


2,914 posted on 11/10/2004 2:54:25 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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I think I'll side with you on the probe, ExSoldier.

Now, now you sailors.........

2,915 posted on 11/10/2004 2:57:35 PM PST by Godzilla (Ready)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

"In excess of 300 feet".

Me and my big mouth. Next thing you know I'll be giving tactical information away about the CSS Hunley. :)


2,916 posted on 11/10/2004 2:57:53 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: MamaDearest

Al Qaeda's newest weapon
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20041106-102514-9500r.htm

Race Against Time to Prevent Nuclear Terror - IAEA
(ElBaradei alert)
http://olympics.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6740432

Number sickened by norovirus at Las Vegas Strip hotel tops 1,200
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20041105-1341-nv-vegasvirus.html

CIA working with FBI inside United States
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20041108/topstories/29623.shtml

Mysterious Powder That Shut Down E.R. Identified
(Do you believe it?)
http://www.fox21.com/Global/story.asp?S=2544451&nav=2KPpSwpE

Return to Terrorist Alley
In August, The Investigators on Eyewitness News 4 first reported the possible threat of terrorists using the Arizona/Mexico border to cross into the U.S.
http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=2545055


2,917 posted on 11/10/2004 2:58:12 PM PST by JustPiper (NoE-the Enemy !!!)
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To: HipShot

Next question, before I have to go and do some chores:


If they are snooping around Japan and Okinawa, where have they been we dont know about? If they are entering into the the "game", whats the intent?

It wont be long before a 688 cleans their clock...of that I am certain. I have faith in CSS-7


2,918 posted on 11/10/2004 3:02:37 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Godzilla; ExSoldier; judicial meanz
"Now, now you sailors........."

There isn't a needle small enough or a sledge hammer big enough. :)

There may be another issue. Sleight of hand. Interference. Distraction. Take your pick.
2,919 posted on 11/10/2004 3:04:58 PM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: SlowBoat407

incoming


2,920 posted on 11/10/2004 3:05:03 PM PST by kimmie7 (<)))><)
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