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IS HAWAII GOING TO FLIP TO A RED STATE?
NRO/Kerry Spot ^ | 10-30-2004 | jim geraghty

Posted on 10/30/2004 4:47:55 PM PDT by Dog

Kerry Spot reader William sends in this report of the situation on the ground in Hawaii:

In terms of presidential politics, [Al Gore's visit] was ALMOST a non-event. He appeared at pre-planned Filipino concert at a high school in a largely Filipino district of Oahu. The co-host was Dem. Cong. Neil Abercrombie.

The Filipino community has traditionally been a Democrat stronghold in this state, and flexed its political muscle 10 year ago by electing Ben Cayetano as the first Filipino Governor of Hawaii, and re-electing him in 1998. The coalition of Filipinos and Japanese-Americans is the bedrock of the Demo. party establishment here.

Kerry is in trouble in this state because recent polling shows the Pres. beating him by 15 points among Filipinos. Gore's appearance last night was an effort to bring some of these Filipino voters back to Kerry.

But only 1200 people were on hand — it wasn't any better than a "B" level political event. And he was largely preaching to the convereted. This was a gathering of Filipinos that are committed to Kerry.

The four local television stations all led their newscasts with it at 10:00 p.m., but the coverage was a little underwhelming. The real heart of each stations' story was that for the first time Hawaii's votes might matter — the electoral count may be close, and the outcome here is too close to call. They then covered Gore's appearance, but in the same story talked about the upcoming appearance of VP Cheney tomorrow.

But, most importantly, immediately following the Gore appearance story, each station covered the Bin Laden video.

Cheney is set to appear tomorrow at an event expected to draw 10,000 people. Rather than a local high school, he'll be in downtown Honolulu at the Convention Center. He's got a real chance to wipe the Gore appearance right off the map.

Very curiously, the two Dem. candidates for Mayor of Honolulu did NOT show up at the event last night with Gore.

Hmm. What do they know about the national race in their polling?

I've been wondering how voting in Hawaii will be affected by the time difference. Will afternoon voters in the islands know who has won the East Coast states? If Kerry loses New Hampshire, or New Jersey looks close, or Bush picks up an electoral vote in Maine, will Hawaiians feel like they know the winner?


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: hawaiiansforbush; lurch; wildgoosehunt
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To: fish hawk

I would love to take my family there next year..Its between them and Oklahoma for my money...ehhehe


61 posted on 10/30/2004 6:16:53 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: jackbill
I agree with you. Hawaiian's aren't stupid. They very well could go for W, or at least come close.

Change in HA politics has been underway for several election cycles.

Thing is I take it all with a grain of salt. Not to knock the "newbies" but notice how many posters who claim HA will go to W have registered in the past few months?

There's nothing wrong with that, but sometimes I feel new FReepers are so excited to have found FR they tend to get a little too optomistic.

Good Lord you and I were newbies once, albeit a long time ago...sigh!

prisoner6

62 posted on 10/30/2004 7:09:14 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: Dog

btt


63 posted on 10/30/2004 7:11:41 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: Dog

Forget Hawaii. Many Republican pundits are now talking like Bush has already lost Ohio. No Republican has won the White House without Ohio. Bush needs to unload his resources in Pennsylvania.


64 posted on 10/30/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Dog

After the sudden appearance of Osama Bin Laden, Dog.

Bet on it turning red by Monday morning!


Jack.


65 posted on 10/30/2004 7:27:29 PM PDT by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: gidget7

Kerry needs rock stars.

Dubyah IS a rock star!


66 posted on 10/30/2004 7:41:00 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Springsteen Concert: Kerry's Farewell Tour)
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To: silent_jonny

The daughter of a client went to that concert to see Bon Jovi.

She is voting for Dubyah.

The kids love free concerts. Changes no minds, though.


67 posted on 10/30/2004 7:45:06 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Springsteen Concert: Kerry's Farewell Tour)
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To: Dog

Al Gore seems to have the Mark of Cain since he lost in 2000. He gives a speech on global warming and the weather wurns out to be the coldest day in 50 years; he stumps for Dean and a week later Dean is toast; he looks BAD.

Gore's appearance in HAWAII and drawing a crowd of 1200 is but the precursor to the greater doom -- that the state will go red.


68 posted on 10/30/2004 7:48:12 PM PDT by Smedley (the sky is falling")
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To: Dog

Kerry is in trouble in this state because recent polling shows the Pres. beating him by 15 points among Filipinos. Gore's appearance last night was an effort to bring some of these Filipino voters back to Kerry.



heh heh heh....... People have been paying attention to my tagline.


69 posted on 10/30/2004 7:54:23 PM PDT by Just Lori (Wake up already!)
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To: buffyt
lol


70 posted on 10/30/2004 8:00:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Dog
IS HAWAII GOING TO FLIP TO A RED STATE?

Good possibility.

Now here's a question: Will the media go back to using the color designations they've always used during elections (incumbent party = blue, challenger party = red), or are the new popular designations (GOP = red, Dems = blue) going to stick?

Personally, I prefer the Rat-won states to be shown in commie red.

71 posted on 10/30/2004 8:01:16 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: NormsRevenge

God,Gore looks awful. I hope doesn't bring up the obesity epidemic in any of his talks.


72 posted on 10/30/2004 8:06:51 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Dog
Jeeze, the guy looks like a greasy vagabond! I bet he'd do a good Elvis ipersonation!

73 posted on 10/30/2004 8:17:17 PM PDT by MarineBrat
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To: k2blader
"It is interesting that those of Filipino ancestry are trending pro-Bush. My guess is there's a pro-military and pro-Catholic connection"

My friend in Leyte tells me that it is probably a reflection of the first hand bad time that these folks have with their own moslem terrorist. Abu Sayef supports Kerry.

74 posted on 11/01/2004 3:47:49 AM PST by Meldrim
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