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Debate Helps to Sway Undecided: Third Encounter Reinforces Trends ('missing', 'cringed'...)
Wash Post ^ | 10/15/04 | John F. Harris and Richard Morin

Posted on 10/15/2004 10:00:56 AM PDT by Cableguy

EDINA, Minn. -- Brian Foldery wanted specific plans from John F. Kerry in the third presidential debate, not another recitation of the things President Bush has done wrong. After 90 minutes Wednesday night, the 29-year-old insulation salesman was impressed. Kerry had some good detail, he thought, when he talked about what to do with the budget deficit.

Still, something was missing. When Foldery listens to Kerry, somehow the Democratic nominee just never fully connects.

There was that wisecrack about how he had "married up" to his heiress wife. Foldery thought it was "smug," not funny. And he cringed when Kerry mentioned that Vice President Cheney's daughter is a lesbian. Why bring her into it? Hanging over all this was Kerry's demeanor, which reminds him of that of a recent college graduate who thinks he has all the answers.

"In a way, I would kind of like to vote for Kerry," said Foldery, a remarkable statement from a man who always has voted Republican. "But I just don't know, because I still don't know that I can fully trust him."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: kerry; lurch; thirddebate; undecidedvote
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1 posted on 10/15/2004 10:00:56 AM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy
Still, something was missing. When Foldery listens to Kerry, somehow the Democratic nominee just never fully connects.

The words sound good. But YOU DON'T BELIEVE HE MEANS IT.

2 posted on 10/15/2004 10:03:30 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: Cableguy
The left wing ideologues prevented anybody other than Kerry, Edwards or Dean from having a shot at the nomination.

Thank God!

3 posted on 10/15/2004 10:03:57 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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To: Cableguy

How long does it take the liberal press to find these people?


4 posted on 10/15/2004 10:04:07 AM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: Cableguy

"In a way, I would kind of like to vote for Kerry," said Foldery, a remarkable statement from a man who always has voted Republican. "But I just don't know, because I still don't know that I can fully trust him."

...plus I'm a total dumb-ass!"


5 posted on 10/15/2004 10:04:10 AM PDT by albie
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To: Cableguy

EDINA, Minn. -- Brian Foldery


MAJOR Democrat stronghold. This guy is lying to the Post. He probably has NEVER voted Republican in his life.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 10:04:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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MAJOR Democrat stronghold. This guy is lying to the Post. He probably has NEVER voted Republican in his life.

Edina is a DFL stronghold? That's news to me. We're talking about a ring suburb here, practically the middle of Pawlenty country.

7 posted on 10/15/2004 10:06:03 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("We're gonna win, Twins ... as soon we get a new manager!")
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To: atomicpossum

In a way, I would kind of like to vote for Kerry," said Foldery, a remarkable statement from a man who always has voted Republican."

??? Another one of the media's undecided "Republicans"...


8 posted on 10/15/2004 10:06:06 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Cableguy
JFreakin'K speaks in well rehearsed blurbs anyway. Nothing he says is from the heart or directly thought about. He's a trained monkey speaking his well tutored babble. That was clear in the 3rd debate and the American public saw how this idiot can't think for himself.
9 posted on 10/15/2004 10:08:24 AM PDT by Petes Sandy Girl
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To: Cableguy

You'd think some of these idiots SEARCHING desperately for a reason to vote for Kerry and not finding one....would've come to the realization by now that they probably shouldn't vote for him.


10 posted on 10/15/2004 10:08:29 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: MNJohnnie
MAJOR Democrat stronghold. This guy is lying to the Post. He probably has NEVER voted Republican in his life.

Note the words "has always voted Republican." ALWAYS . . . the guy is 29 years old! He's only voted in TWO previous Presidential elections.

The MSM are so transparent.

11 posted on 10/15/2004 10:08:50 AM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Cableguy

Thanks for posting. Interesting article and I must admit I think the Post did a fair job.

"Kerry's demeanor reminds him of that of a recent college graduate who thinks he has all the answers." - No one would ever accuse W of that ;-)


12 posted on 10/15/2004 10:11:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Cableguy
. Kerry had some good detail, he thought, when he talked about what to do with the budget deficit.

This tells me that our Mr. Foldery is a moron. All added up, Kerry's stated economic policys will drive up both taxes and the deficit. Democrats REALLY suck at math. As my 14yo said during the last debate "Kerry must be the candidate for people who can't do math"

13 posted on 10/15/2004 10:12:54 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Patriotic Homeschool Kids for Bush)
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To: Cableguy

This article is from the Washington Post??? That's something unusual.


14 posted on 10/15/2004 10:12:57 AM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Cableguy

Let's face it people - if you're not decided by now, chances are you are just too stupid to vote.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 10:14:04 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (Patriotic Homeschool Kids for Bush)
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To: plushaye

Wash Post has been the most 'fair and balanced' among center/left papers in the past 2 years.


16 posted on 10/15/2004 10:14:20 AM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Cableguy

I find it hard to believe a republican would ever consider voting for Kerry. I have had several Democrat friends call to let me know after the last debate and Kerry, Edwards and especially Edwards wife's statements about the Chaney family, they will definately be voting for Bush and 2 are considering changing parties.


17 posted on 10/15/2004 10:15:25 AM PDT by lolhelp
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To: Colonel_Flagg
MAJOR Democrat stronghold. This guy is lying to the Post. He probably has NEVER voted Republican in his life.

Edina is a DFL stronghold? That's news to me. We're talking about a ring suburb here, practically the middle of Pawlenty country


Who's their Congressman? Marin SABO D-MN. Inner Ring suburb like St Louis park. Go drive around Edina. LOTS of Kerry Edwards signs, hardly any Bush signs.
18 posted on 10/15/2004 10:17:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox

Fred Barnes saves the day

Quote of choice

"The snap polls, however, showed a tie or even a Kerry win. These should be ignored. A debate is a three or four day event, starting with the 90 minutes on TV, then involving examination of what the candidates said and commentary on it, and winding up with polls that show whether one candidate or the other gained or lost ground. My guess is Bush will gain.

Now here's a strange twist on the debate. Bush was the winner in a focus group of uncommitted voters conducted by pollster Frank Luntz last night. The 23 voters thought Kerry, not Bush, won the debate. But they split 17 to 5 in favor of Bush on whom they now plan to vote for (one will vote Libertarian). "They still don't trust what John Kerry is saying," Luntz said, though they thought he said it well."


19 posted on 10/15/2004 10:20:12 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: sam_whiskey

hey what is that site where you can look up people's political donations? I'd like to check on where these people put their money (if anywhere, that is.)


20 posted on 10/15/2004 10:20:53 AM PDT by rocky88 (" John Kerry has no such clear, precise and consistent vision." - Rudy Guiliani)
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