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O'Neil on Nightline now

Posted on 10/14/2004 9:00:45 PM PDT by Nat2004

O'Neil is taking Ted Koppel apart right now and Koppel is trying to keep him from talking. this is real good.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abcnews; kerry; kerrylies; nightlie; oneill; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets; tedfloppel
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To: LegalEagle61

Better yet, tonight's episode of Nightlime should be titled "Ted's Not So Excellent Adventure".


81 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:11 PM PDT by politicalwit (A vote for Bush or Kerry is a vote for open borders.)
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To: Merry
Good going. I wrote and told them that their big "story" was a joke, and John O'Neill is right, "You were had."

Fools.

82 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:11 PM PDT by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: Nat2004; All

Thanks for the head's up for those of on the west coast... TiVO is ready and waiting.


83 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:22 PM PDT by cgk (FReepers' Prayers helped to match my husband to his brother for a bone marrow match.)
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To: Nat2004

This also really shows how biased and spiteful the MSM is. You gotta be kidding, taking the word of VC and Vietnamese Communist officials at face value over American veterans. O'Neil kept coming back to documented facts (including Kerry's own account!) and all Koppel could do was blubber that O'Neill should "stop using those books!"

Really, it is amazing that W is doing as well as he is considering the fact that the MSM is throwing everything they have at him and protecting Kerry by all means necessary.

Could we pull a Rather with this, meaning do some research on these witnesses and demonstrate that they are phonies? FOr example, they only found the village after a government licensed watermen took them there. Are they certain it was the right village? Some of these witnesses appear to be pretty young to remember a day 35 years ago in a war torn country-- was that the only incident to ever happen in that village during the whole conflict (my guess is not since they also boasted of the VC control of the area)?

We could also deconstruct the story. Koppel put a lot of stock in the allegation that the fighter was 25 or 26 instead of 18. Who really cares about that? In addition, the villagers were very careful in their description of the "firefight," describing only fire from the Swift Boats and having conflicting stories about how much if any fire came from shore. The one villager who said there was fire from shore said they didn't come close to hitting anything. Since the Swift Boats were beached and within yards, they are either lying or the worst shots in the history of human civilization. There were a lot of other details like this in the story -- (1) no one saw Kerry shoot the kid, but described the VC as running after being shot by the boats and collpasing dead 18 meters later; (2) failure to find the real VC arms cache; (3) hearing the Americans yell "attack, attack" while the boats were firing -- pretty mean feat considering the same witnesses said they were hiding in bunkers when they saw the boats; (4) using different numbers of VC at different times (the same person said it was 12 aand 20 -- which one was it?)

An outrageously thin story designed to embarrass the swiftvets based solely upon the words of ocmmunists government and their veterans. American journalism is embarrassing -- if I did this on my high school newspaper, I would have been fired on the spot.


84 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:28 PM PDT by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: Nat2004
I didn't see the interview (can't stand Koppel), but another thread posted this as part of the villagers' description of what happened:

Her husband Tam said the man who fired the B-40 rocket was hit in this barrage of gunfire. Then, he said, "he ran about 18 meters before he died, falling dead." "When the firing started, Ba Thanh was killed," Tam said.

This sounds as though the man was killed by a volley of gunfire from the boat, and not anything like Kerry's story of jumping from the boat, chasing him down behind a hooch, and shooting him - Koppel should be the one worried about the villagers lying - their account seems to demolish Kerry's version of how he got his medal......

85 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: watsonfellow

I'm with you-I'm out in Bush Alaska on the Yukon River- internet speed 2.4kps- any quotes would be nice!!


86 posted on 10/14/2004 9:40:46 PM PDT by midnightson
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To: big time major leaguer

Did he have a copy of one of Kerry's own books there?


87 posted on 10/14/2004 9:41:41 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Danno

Heres my email to nightline.

You've been had Ted. Here are 3 reasons villagers would lie:
MONEY
ATTENTION
STATUS
These happen to be 3 things ABC managed to provide in one way or another. Is real journalism dead? First CBS now this. The memo about " accountability" doesn't help your cause out any. In fact, after ABC jumped on the 60 min forgery so well , maybe CBS can investigate the bias at ABC. We can only hope.
Bad job ABC. Really shoddy.


88 posted on 10/14/2004 9:42:06 PM PDT by singletrack (".......................................")
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To: cgk

Pause the date on the grave and see what it is. Some people are reporting on other threads that it is April or May.


89 posted on 10/14/2004 9:42:40 PM PDT by Nov3 (They knifed babies, They raped girls, They forced children to drink their own urine)
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To: All

Anybody willing to put this up on the net?


90 posted on 10/14/2004 9:42:56 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Nat2004

Can anyone with a Tivo get a screen shot of that tombstone?

We need to check the date.


91 posted on 10/14/2004 9:43:55 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: nonkultur; All

O'Neil absolutely killed Koppel. Wow, i loved every minute of this.


92 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:02 PM PDT by AmarilloMorning
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To: nonkultur

I have it on tape and a 60" bigscreen. Where does the tombstone come in?


93 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:21 PM PDT by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Just sent Rush a heads up that this could be Memogate II!


94 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:24 PM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: Nov3

Which grave? So I know what I'm looking for... (right now, I'm out of the loop).


95 posted on 10/14/2004 9:46:57 PM PDT by cgk (FReepers' Prayers helped to match my husband to his brother for a bone marrow match.)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

He got a silver star for killing a dead man. What a hero.


96 posted on 10/14/2004 9:47:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Jenya

The woman whose husband got killed. They go to the grave to light insence.


97 posted on 10/14/2004 9:47:57 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: rwfromkansas
Did he have a copy of one of Kerry's own books there?

He did. He read a quote from Kerry " Thank God there was a lone VC. Imagine if there had been 3, or 5 or more..."

Priceless.

98 posted on 10/14/2004 9:48:02 PM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: Jim_Curtis

Doesn't that mean that Koppel was making a false accusation in the first statement and then, in the heat of battle, forgot his lie later on?

Nice pickup, Jim


99 posted on 10/14/2004 9:50:02 PM PDT by T-Boy
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To: Thickman

...And that's the truth - Ted thinks he is a top journalist. Well, if that is so, why is he still doing the night shift?...

Because bottom feeders are nocturnal?


100 posted on 10/14/2004 9:50:16 PM PDT by planekT
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