Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Kerry Lost Security Clearance!
Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerrys Navy security clearance.
Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.
Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.
Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.
Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the Peace Talks. While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.
These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.
Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didnt want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerrys security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, Lieutenant Kerry wasnt cleared to know what time it was!
The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Today, he couldnt get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!
And that wouldbe with his fake British accent he was sing in the post Viet Nam era.
Am I the only one mind boggled by that? What was that all about? And, did he lose the accent, when?
I would tend to agree with you.
It seems that security clearances are for people who are other than politicians and their hacks. John Deutch was slinging classified information between his laptop and his home computer on a regular basis. Johnny's still breathing free air, despite the scary lecture you get from the Command MCPO on how every breech of classified informatoin will get you 10 years and $10K.
Sandy Berger? He's still walking around.
Security clearances are for little people and honest people.
I heard two liberals talking on Sunday about how much Kerry has been "working on his accent". They both noted, however, that the word "idear" came out in the last debate and they were thrilled. Both East Coasters by birth.
"but why is not a law that ALL military records of a person running for POUS be made available to the public?"
National security reasons. War isn't just about dropping bombs it's psychological too.
Original source link please?
I remember that, sorry, but 1978 is NOT 1972, and 1972 is when his active service should have ended.
So, even a 1978 date is too late for a regular discharge date, and 1978 still pints to an irregular discharge, and a pardon by Jimmy Carter more likely from a BCD or General under other than honerable discharge.
Nukes. He went to some sort of nuclear school, and presumably either the Gridley was nuclear powered or was carrying nuclear weapons. I'm too lazy to look it up.
Kerry looks that old, but I didn't know he was that old. Maybe we should check with Helen Thomas to find out if he really was around in A.D. 1091.
Yes. Who would've been involved with processing that?--maybe they could be interviewed.
Yikes.
Weren't there major problems getting security clearances for BJC and his cronies? Did they ever get finally them?
Remember Clinton/Gore et al? Clearance wasn't a problem for them.
That's his transfer to active duty, not his discharge.
"Sandy Berger? He's still walking around."
It's scary that these folks are above the law.
"Almost a year later, in April 1091,"
"Kerry was still campaigning in the dark ages?"
Now you know why he has so many wrinkles.
What are you referring to?
True - No Controlling Legal Authority.
The document link you posted.
I believe I saw it too and what Bob said was that Kerry did not participate but he stood a few feet away and did nothing to stop nor oppose it. Is that hard to believe?
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