Navy Stripped Kerry Of Security Clearance!!!!!! Unauthorized Contacts With Enemy Agents!

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[browardchad]

Back then, and presumably now, every officer had a background check and a security clearance. It was either Secret, or Top Secret. I've forgotten. Very routine. Even I had such a clearance. (Never needed it.) But for any particular bit of info, you still had to have a need to know in order to see it.

Thanks for the explanation.

[cake_crumb]

Need independent confirmation of this. I've heard rumors of it before, but never got enough confirmation to do anything with. If true, THIS is a grenade in the Kerry tent.

[Strategerist]

If this report is true and based on actual fact, regarding Kerry's need for clearance if he were President, my question is whether a formal clearance is necessary or required when one is holding the most powerful position in the United States. Is that clearance not given automatically? I don't know. Does anyone out there have the facts?

This is quite possibly the dumbest argument I've ever had on FR.

Do you remember any bold headlines in the Newspapers and on TV in 1992 or in 2000 between the vote of the Electoral College and the Inaguration saying "Clinton Receives Top Secret Clearance, Can Serve as President" or "Bush Passes Security Check, Inauguration Plans Go Forward."?

How exactly do you visualize the process of someone being elected President and then not having access to any classified material? Or being prevented from being "President" by failing a background check?

Being elected President has little in common with being hired to shuffle papers on a desk at the CIA as an analyst.

Sorry. The way it goes is anyone elected by the people has full access to all classified material.

Otherwise the Presidents wouldn't be selected by a vote of the people and the Electoral College; Presidents would be selected by a small group of mid-level CIA and FBI bureaucrats.

[treeclimber]

Kerry is unfit for command.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

well, like some pointed out on this thread, thats why he had it changed in the 90's.

Holy Smokes. HAHAHAHAHAHA Kerry is in deep doodoo!

let's see him flip this flop!

[Charles Martel]

I am beginning to smell the ozone on Ruiner.

Yep, I'd say we've found a deep-cover troll.

[MistyCA]

Thanks for the ping. I need to catch up with what's been going on this morning! :)

[RightWhale]

this illegal war

Just a little nuance: legality resides in various international treaties not in the halls of the UN. It was legal but even though it was poorly executed it was ultimately successful.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks for the ping!!

My thanks to BulletBobCo for the concept of this
pic and to Conspiracy Guy for the captions!

[MattMa]

Most of the PDB are classified TS or above. If he can't get those briefings.

[Mo1]

More importantly if he had his clearance yanked, how did he get an honorable discharge?

There are questions as to whether he did or not back in the 70's when he was discharged from the Navy

The only way to find out for sure is for Kerry to sign the 180 form

He REFUSES to do so

[gopwinsin04]

And the mainstream media hasn't even gotten to the Winter Soldier senatorial assassination meetings of 1971 in Kansas City yet..

[UsnDadof8]

You mean his contacts helped bring about more pain and suffering for our soldiers who were prisoners of war.

[DaGman]

One question... why would a garden variety lieutenant on a swift boat have a top secret clearance? Is that standard? If so, it would seem there are entirely too many people with top secret clearances i.e. access to the most important secrets of the country.

[musicman]

"This harkens back to the best "gray suit" threads of 1998. Quidam, you're missed."

Gee...do you mean that "Coke ISN'T It???"

[IndianPrincessOK]

"I personally commend Senator Kerry for standing up against the US government and the atrocities it soldiers committed in Vietnam. His contacts with the North Vietnamese helped bring this illegal war to a speedy end."

You've got to be kidding, right??? What he did and said jeopardized our soldiers and our POW's...just like he is doing now...he did all of this for his own glory and could care less about the soldiers....that is why he is unfit to command!

[DanTheAdmin]

Odd for ruiner, most of his/her past posts are very good?!?!?

[Strategerist]

I did not know that. I assumed since even *I* had a clearance, someone like the Pres would need one too. Since you have to have one, or the ability to get clearance to work in any classified area of the DOD or DOJ. This is nuts.

Thought experiment.

Bill Clinton in 1999 makes sure a bunch of his buddies are hired to be on the clearance committee or whatever in the CIA or FBI.

Supreme Court rules on the recount, Electoral College votes...

But then the clearance committee of midlevel bureaucrat partisan hacks says..."Wait a minute. Can't give W a clearance because of that drunk driving conviction...Gore is President.

Being President is a hell of a lot different from whatever jobs you had.

[Kozak]

They could have pics of Kerry dressed in an NVA uniform, holding his AK 47 drinking a toast with Ho Chi Minh, and Mao, with captured Americans as the furniture, and the press would want to know where Bush was THAT WEEK and did he have the records to prove it.

[Peach]

I personally commend Senator Kerry for standing up against the US government and the atrocities it soldiers committed in Vietnam.

Which atrocities are those? You mean the ones debunked in the book Stolen Valor?

Sleeper cell alert.