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Navy Stripped Kerry Of Security Clearance!!!!!! Unauthorized Contacts With Enemy Agents!
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Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Kerry Lost Security Clearance!

Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.

Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.

Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.

Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.

Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.

These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.

Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.

However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!


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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Kerry's obviously been in place a long time.


121 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:05 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: MindBender26

Without confirmation this rumor is worthless.


122 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: MindBender26
Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.

Gutless RINOs strike again.

123 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Three choices: Defeat Islam, submit, or die.)
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To: browardchad
Why was "a top secret clearance was required for his work at that time" (1967)? Was it SOP?

Back then, and presumably now, every officer had a background check and a security clearance. It was either Secret, or Top Secret. I've forgotten. Very routine. Even I had such a clearance. (Never needed it.) But for any particular bit of info, you still had to have a need to know in order to see it.

124 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:12 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: MindBender26

Problem is, this could break and no one under the age of 40 would think it was relevant.


125 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:28 AM PDT by riri
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To: VPMWife78; doug from upland; Mia T; ALOHA RONNIE; jwalsh07; Huber; TaxRelief; ...

126 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:28 AM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Prehaps this is why he had his discharge reworked later on?


127 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:31 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I would think you would have to have one (clearance) BEFORE the other (position)

Please identify where exactly in the Constitution it requires one to get a security clearance before they can be elected President?

If Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Jane Fonda, etc. were elected President, they'd all have full access to all intel data. Because they're President.

128 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:33 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MindBender26
“Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

My new tagline. :0)

129 posted on 10/13/2004 10:09:41 AM PDT by demlosers ( ONI: “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”)
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To: r9etb

Well, see 116. Just like any position, my understanding was you have to be able to be cleared for (re-)classification.

If his clearance was revoked, then how can he be cleared (again) to be eligible for the job of President?


130 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:01 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: browardchad

At one point -- in defense of the Cambodia story, I think -- his campaign floated the story that he had been CIA. Plot thickens.


131 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:49 AM PDT by Another Thought
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
How did he sit on the Senate Intel. Committee not long ago? And he had access to classified info...?

He was on the committee during Clinton's term

Isn't that the time frame of the story of getting his discharge papers changed ??

http://www.nysun.com/article/3107

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge

132 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:56 AM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: dwilli

Pissing on or burning the flag is not illegal. Disrespectful to a major degree but not illegal.


133 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:58 AM PDT by Parthalan
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To: atomicpossum

Yes.. We need a link..


134 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:59 AM PDT by JesseJane (~On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.~)
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To: Rebelbase
"This will break NOT!"

I agree.

Some FReeper seem to wet their pants over every little tidbit, and post stupid things like "He is toast" or "Kerry is dead meat".

This story MAY get some play on talk radio, but for the MSM?
It could maybe get a play in the classifieds under "Massage parlors"....if you paid enough money.

ALL of the MSM, including FOX News is in the tank to defeat Bush.
135 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:01 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Strategerist

The Constitution didn't say I had to have clearance for the work I performed at Pratt Whitney, does it? Boy, all that hassle for nothing.


136 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:15 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


137 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:23 AM PDT by zip ((Remember: pingDimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of Americans))
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To: Strategerist


Hanoi John before he joined the Navy in 67. HAHA!
138 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:41 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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To: Strategerist; cardinal4
All commissioned officers automatically have TS clearances. They don't receive their commissions unless they have been thoroughly vetted.

All elected officials also have TS clearances. They need not have been vetted. I can't think of one person in the Clinton transition team who would have qualified for a Confidential clearance.

139 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:56 AM PDT by Ax (I DARE you to scratch out my "Bush/Cheney04" bumper sticker.)
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To: ruiner
Yeah, Kerry was a real brave guy all right. His sugar daddies were two of the most powerful men in the Senate (Fulbright and Kennedy), he viciously and deliberately slandered those of us who were still over in theater for his own political gain, and he served to prolong the war by providing aid and comfort to the enemy. Kerry is, and was, scum.

That crap you just spewed has been a comfortable falsehood for three decades now, and it's our turn now. Stand by, my little friend, because what's going to hit you on 2 November is just a down payment.

140 posted on 10/13/2004 10:12:17 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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