Posted on 10/10/2004 9:13:59 AM PDT by finnigan2
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge:
Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was discharged in the '70s, but not honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire. This will blow up in his face before October 15th. On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6-year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years - 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & 5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Cod! e of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972. Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year." On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per yea r training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled? On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -Inactive. On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War: 1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy. 2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate. 3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam. 4. Lt . Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry by his own words &actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ’s Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Director, AuthentiSEAL "The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs" http://www.authentiseal.org/
I know he has never been called by the MSM on his subersive activities and it is truly not fair.. How can people honestly vote for him with this hanging out there... I really wish one of those town hall debate questions would have been about his post war activities and his military record... I mean there is so much press on it but it is being muffeled
These two sections were repealed in 1994.
These two sections were repealed in 1994.
Yeah. What is needed is hard proof -- is that coming this month?
I agree.
this being so, and assuming the rumors are true, he must have a defense planned. any ideas about what he could say to refute this (other then saying the records are forged).
another rumor is that there is a document declaring Kerry "Unfit for Command", hence the title of the book.
bttt
Looks like 10 USC 1162 and 1163 were repealed in 1994:
10 USCS § 1162 (2004)
[§ 1162. Repealed]
HISTORY; ANCILLARY LAWS AND DIRECTIVES
This section (Act Aug. 10, 1956, ch 1041, § 1, 70A Stat. 89; Sept. 2, 1958, P.L. 85-861, § 1(27), 72 Stat. 1450) was repealed by Act Oct. 5, 1994, P.L. 103-337, Div A, Title XVI, Subtitle C, § 1662(i)(2), 108 Stat. 2998 (effective Dec. 1, 1994, as provided by § 1691 of such Act, which appears as 10 USCS § 10001 note). This section provided for discharge of reserves. For similar provisions, see 10 USCS § 12681.
Courtesy of Lexis.
I see. I could only find it by putting in the date of it's repeal. Twisted!
1978 is what Kerry's web site shows. Is it just coincidence that Jimmy Carter took office in 1977 and pardoned all draft dodgers that year?
The 'boilerplate' standard form verbiage is typeset (justified). Individual details (date, name, etc.) were added with a typewriter.
Common practice. Nothing suspicious about that...
1978...The Carter years when amnesty was bestowed...I think there is something in the records to show that he had a dishonorable discharge, but it was changed or altered at THAT time..
It appears to be a standard typeset form with Kerry's name and discharge date about the only things typed (and hard to read.)
You are right, Kerry could have posted a "Fake" discharge document on his Web site.
I would attack this angle rather than the March 2001 doc which we can't get our hands on.
A thinking American would NOT vote for John F. Kerry until he has released ALL of his military documents, only a fool would!!!
Remember all these records were/are in kerry's FBI files....could be where the leak is/has come from.
1) Kerry's OCS agreement does not "obligate" him to 48 drills. It suggests that as one of two possible activities, and even mentions a third which is "such duty as the Navy requires."
2) After 1971 Kerry's records were transferred to Naval Manpower Reserve in Bainbridge and where they (apparently ) were held for the remaining 2 years of his Active reserve status. NMR's responsibility was to match a reservist with a command. If in the post-VN drawdown there was no such match, then Kerry would have remained "in limbo" with NMR. And in fact he did send NMR a status update in the fall of 1971.
3) Active Reservists are not subject to UCMJ except while in the actual performance of their reserve duties.
4) I have repeatedly asked FR members about this "2001 discharge" and have received no answers. There is a 1978 Honorable Discharge document out there, but I have yet to see anything dated 2001.
Not trying to bash the author here, these are all reasonable questions. But the research I've done indicates that several are really non-issues.
Nor do any of the facts relieve Kerry the fundamental immorality and disloyalty of visiting Paris while a Naval officer or dissing the millions of honorable men who served with him in VN.
Personally, it makes me sick that I wore a U.S. Navy uniform at the same time this traitor was a Reserve Naval Officer.
Would the Navy really have given a medal "winner" like Kerry a less-than-honorable discharge? Say what you will, the services are concerned about appearances, and Kerry appeared to be a hero (at least regarding the award of his medals). Would the Navy have done that?
This is not true. On his website, Kerry has his honorable discharge, dated February of 1978.
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