The CIA 'old guard' goes to war with Bush

Telegraph ^ | 10-10-04 | Phillip Sherwell

[Steel Wolf]

That's a house that's long overdue a good cleaning. I think it's time to clear out some of the dead wood that's been rotting back there.

[Hank Rearden]

A search on "guard" would reveal this previously posted.

[sam_whiskey]

This has been fairly to anybody who's paying attention.

[prometheus]

I wouldn't give two cents for anything the F-ing CIA says about anything. They are a bunch of lazy SOB's who fxxxed up the pre 9-11 intelligence,,,,fxxxed up the WMD intelligence......and you get the rest of the picture. These guys are a bunch of blowhards and losers.

[peyton randolph]

Amazing how the article omits that the CIA has a duty to serve the President. Its function within the executive branch is not to sabotage a sitting President. I hope many bureaucratic heads roll after Bush wins in November.

[hippy hate me]

Missed it on the "CIA" search. I'll have to be more thorough next time.

[Hank Rearden]

Yeah, I tried searching "CIA" too ('cause I remember the other post), but FR doesn't search on 3 letters or less.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>That's a house that's long overdue a good cleaning. I think it's time to clear out some of the dead wood that's been rotting back there.

Dittos for the State Department. It needs a good flush.

[txroadkill]

Stansfield Turner (Carter's old Roomate) wrecked the CIA during the Carter years and loaded the adminstration with RATS coasting on government jobs and collecting goverment benifits. Time to clean house.

[sourdoughAK]

I think that article is a lot of hype. There may be problems between some Bush people & the agency or former agency folks - but by and large people working for the CIA are extremely patriotic, and extremely RIGHT WING. They don't want to see Kerry elected, and serve to gain nothing by undermining Bush in such an overt way. Anybody doing that would be rogue in my estimation, not part of a large group.

To call them all idiots is just flat wrong - I spent some time dealing w/ the agency - and they were some of the smartest people I ever met. The organization itself has all kinds of bureaucratic problems - but you just can't blame everyone working there for the fact that the agency itself may be in bad need of an overhaul.

[DB]

It is time for a house cleaning at the CIA.

Enough is enough.

[risk]

New eras require new thinking. The question about these guys is why they didn't tell us the era had changed. In with the new, out with the old. That's the American way!

[Anti-Bubba182]

"..Bill Harlow, the former CIA spokesman who left with the former director George Tenet in July, acknowledged that there had been leaks from within the agency. "The intelligence community has been made the scapegoat for all the failings over Iraq," he said. "It deserves some of the blame, but not all of it. People are chafing at that, and that's the background to these leaks...."

The leaker should be fired. It seems they alway exist no matter who is in power.

[Nathan Zachary]

All the Clinton era puppets just have to go. When Clinton politicized the CIA it was the worst thing he could ever have done. It fell apart, to the point that there wasn't even ONE Arab speaking agent. They FAILED in many ways BEFORE Bush even became president. Clarke was one of those disasters. How many more Clarkes are there?

[prometheus]

Yes,,,Turner, along with Senator Church,,,,,,did a hit job on the CIA....before then they did some good work, especially in the 1950's, but the Carter presidency wreaked the agency, drove the good people out, and put in the bunch of bumblers and F-ups we have today. If you remember the CIA didn't even call the Iranian revolution right. It is a wonder we won the Cold War with this bunch.

[sam_whiskey]

fairly obvious-I meant to say

[hippy hate me]

Considering the sources here are from retired agents, I was swayed to share the same gut feeling on the article as yourself. Despite some problems, an all out Bush attack through a re-election bid would be career suicide for the agency, I would think. Considering, if I'm not mistaken, Kerry wants to create a completely new domestic spy agency.

[vampire2191]

No amount of revisionist history will change the fact that fewer Coalition troops have died in the War on Terror than Americans died in the WTC on 9-11. Tens of thousands of allied deaths were projected, prior to the invasion of Iraq, by talking heads in the MSM. Based on written transcripts and video of President Bush's speeches and statements, it appears that President Bush is one of the very few who did NOT lie.

[Cacique]

In other countries when one party or faction takes over from another there is a "purge". In our system we replace the guys on top and leave the bureaucracy in place regardless of whether it's effective or not. And this is not just the CIA. We can look at Defense,State and every other major outfit in Washington. All the Marxists hired from Harvard and Princeton and other so called institutions of lower learning remain in place to sabotage policy. It's time to demand a general cleanup.

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