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An Agonizing Choice
Creative Loafing Atlanta ^ | October 7, 2004 | Bob Barr

Posted on 10/09/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by CJHughes

An agonizing choice

Conservatives have plenty of cause to abandon Bush

BY BOB BARR

Voting for president used to be so easy, at least for a conservative. There was the Republican candidate. You knew he generally stood for lower taxes, less government spending, giving fewer powers to the government, lower deficits and a zealous regard for individual privacy.

Then, there was the Democrat. You knew he generally stood for higher taxes, more government and deficit spending, and a zealous regard for civil liberties.

Throughout my own presidential voting history, the choices have rarely, if ever, been agonizing. Nixon vs. McGovern? Carter vs. Reagan? Reagan-Mondale? Dukakis, a Massachusetts liberal? Clinton? Al Gore? Ah, the good ol' days. Each of those races presented clear choices, easily resolved.

Now we have the election of 2004. For the first time in my voting life, the choice in the race for president isn't so clear And, among true conservatives, I'm not alone.

What's making the contest so difficult? It's certainly not that both candidates are so conservative that we have a choice of riches. It's not even that John Kerry is sort of right wing compared to George W. Bush. The incumbent clearly is the more "conservative" of the two.

But the concerns for many conservative voters -- concerns that may cause them not to vote for Mr. Bush on Nov. 2 -- fall generally into three categories: fiscal, physical (as in the physical security of our nation) and freedom (as in protecting our civil liberties).

When Bush became president Jan. 20, 2001, he inherited an enviable fiscal situation. Congress, then controlled by his own party, had -- through discipline and tough votes -- whittled down decades of deficit spending under presidents of both parties, so that annual deficits of hundreds of billions of dollars had been transformed to a series of real and projected surpluses. The heavy lifting had been done. All Bush had to do was resist the urge to spend, and he had to exert some pressure on Congress to resist its natural impulses to do the same. Had he done that, he might have gone down in history as the most fiscally conservative president in modern times.

Instead, what we got were record levels of new spending, including nearly double-digit increases in nondefense discretionary spending. We now have deficits exceeding those that the first Republican-controlled Congress in 40 years faced when it convened in January 1995.

The oft-repeated mantra that "the terrorists made us spend more" rings hollow, especially to those who actually understand that increases in nondefense discretionary spending are not the inevitable result of fighting terrorists. It also irritates many conservatives, whether or not they support the war in Iraq, that so much of defense spending is being poured into the black hole of Iraq's internal security, while the security of our own borders goes wanting.

That brings us to the second major beef conservatives have with the president. He's seen as failing to take real steps to improve our border security. In many respects, because of his apparent desire to appease his compadre to the south -- Mexican President Vincente Fox -- Bush has made matters worse. More people are entering our country illegally than ever before, more than 3 million this year alone -- and most of them are stampeding across from Mexico.

It seems as if every time an effort is made to implement measures that would crack down on illegal immigration, Fox complains, and the White House tells our enforcement folks to back off. Perhaps that is why intelligence reports indicate al-Qaeda is actively recruiting in Central America.

At the same time, here at home, many law-abiding citizens accurately perceive that their own freedoms and civil liberties are being stripped. They are being profiled by government computers whenever they want to travel, their bank accounts are being summarily closed because they may fit some "profile," they are under surveillance by cameras paid for by that borrowed federal money, and, if the administration has its way, they will be forced to carry a national identification card. That skewed sense of priorities really rankles conservatives.

Those are but three tips of the iceberg that signal the deep dissatisfaction many conservatives harbor against the president. Thus far, however, with Bush's political gurus telling him he's ahead and to just lay low and not make any major gaffes, he seems unwilling to recognize the problems on his right flank. Or he seems to have concluded that he doesn't need to address those concerns because the ineptitude of the Kerry campaign hasn't forced him to.

But the race appears to be tightening again. It's likely to remain tight until Election Day. Those dissatisfied conservative voters will become increasingly important, but it's going to be impossible for the president to pull them back in with hollow, last-minute promises.

Bush's problem is that true conservatives remember their history. They recall that in recent years when the nation enjoyed the fruits of actual conservative fiscal and security policies, a Democrat occupied the White House and Congress was controlled by a Republican majority that actually fought for a substantive conservative agenda.

History's a troublesome thing for presidents. Even though most voters don't take much of a historical perspective into the voting booth with them, true conservatives do.

Hmmm. Who's the Libertarian candidate again?

Lifelong Republican Bob Barr represented parts of Cobb County and northwest Georgia in Congress from 1995 to 2003.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; bobbarr; bush; howboutsomefreedom; hugegovernmentbush; opinion; spendspendspend; votelibertarian; zerovetos
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1 posted on 10/09/2004 10:21:02 PM PDT by CJHughes
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To: CJHughes

Other than the borders thing, regarding which Kerry is worse, what we have here is a guy in the pay of the ACLU. The guy is whining about the Patriot Act in general, without one word about foreign policy or terrorists, and their plans for the US. Pathetic, but then I never supported Barr ever. I had his number early on.


2 posted on 10/09/2004 10:25:26 PM PDT by Torie
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To: CJHughes

Poor Bob could not resist drinking the ACLU Kool Aid.


3 posted on 10/09/2004 10:25:47 PM PDT by Lawdoc (This space for rent.)
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To: CJHughes

He is correct on most points. There is almost no talk nowadays about the proper role of the federal governmet...every role is proper for the feds. Very few, except commited conservatives and libertarians, ask if Congress has the authority to pass the program du jour.


4 posted on 10/09/2004 10:26:40 PM PDT by petrotsky (Posting vanities since Sept. 23, 2004)
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To: Torie

You were smarter than me, but then I never payed Barr that much attention unless he was saying something against Clinton.


5 posted on 10/09/2004 10:29:07 PM PDT by Eva
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To: CJHughes
A problem deciding who to vote for, Bob 8-?

;-)

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7 posted on 10/09/2004 10:32:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Eva
I never payed Barr that much attention unless he was saying something against Clinton.

So when he's speaking out against Clinton he's credible, but when he's speaking out about Bush, he's not?

8 posted on 10/09/2004 10:32:45 PM PDT by CJHughes (Gun registration is for chumps.)
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To: petrotsky

Bush's spending habits bug me. Being blown up bugs me a bit more. I'll stick with Bush.

This is the first I've heard of Republicans ready to bolt from Bush.


9 posted on 10/09/2004 10:32:50 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (John Kerry is really Joe Isuzu)
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To: Laptop_Ron

Bush's spending habits bug me. Being blown up bugs me a bit more. I'll stick with Bush.

I agree, but at some point we have to address the growing power of the federal government. I do not believe that in the long term it is beneficial for liberty to have a central government with unlimited jurisdiction.


10 posted on 10/09/2004 10:35:35 PM PDT by petrotsky (Posting vanities since Sept. 23, 2004)
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To: probusiness
What is called for, we believe, is a dramatic reorientation of fiscal policy, including substantial reversals of your tax policy. Running a budget deficit in response to a short bout of recession is one thing. But running large structural deficits over a long period is something else entirely. We therefore urge you to consider the fiscal realities we now face and the substantial burden they are placing on our economy.

One expects a republican to cut taxes. But one also expects a republican to cut spending, thus resulting in a smaller government.

11 posted on 10/09/2004 10:36:37 PM PDT by CJHughes
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To: CJHughes

Okay sure Bob go ahead and that is going to accomplish what? Oh year a Kerry win - that would really help the Homeland Security you want. Kerry has already said he is for amnesty for all illegal aliens. Then he changes the Patriot Act, giving us less safeguards again. He is proposing 2.5 trillion is additional spending. Yeah Bob that will be much better than Bush.


12 posted on 10/09/2004 10:37:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth (txsleuth (new today-Bush is my hero))
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To: CJHughes

What a twit. I always thought he looked like one of those kids who always asked the teacher to give extra homework and whose books you couldn't resist knocking out from under his arm. Now he's behaving like one.


13 posted on 10/09/2004 10:37:36 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: CJHughes

No, it's just that I happened to agree with his criticism of Clinton and wasn't discrimatory enough about who was making the criticism.


14 posted on 10/09/2004 10:37:41 PM PDT by Eva
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To: petrotsky

I can understand that, but I look at it as a matter of priorities. Which is the graver threat: Bigger government spending or terrorism?
I don't like either, but I think that we have to look at first things first.


15 posted on 10/09/2004 10:37:42 PM PDT by Laptop_Ron (John Kerry is really Joe Isuzu in disguise. Pass it on...)
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To: petrotsky

How is this for a reason to stay with him?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240574/posts


16 posted on 10/09/2004 10:38:18 PM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: Torie

Good grief! Bob Barr, Joe Scarborough, John Kasich ... All a bunch of wimpy, weasel, chameleons.


17 posted on 10/09/2004 10:38:25 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Torie

I don't trust Bob Barr at all. That being said, I only fear the Patriot Act in one scenario: where an unethical Democrat decides to play dirty tricks with it's provisos (get a dirty judge and you can lock someone up indefinitely, search without warrants etc...) I only worry when it is in the hands of a Democrat President like Clinton or Kerry... But, in the time of war, we make compromises we later have to fix. Free Speech vs "Loose Lips Sink Ships"


18 posted on 10/09/2004 10:39:38 PM PDT by Acrobat (Gregoire, Murray, Cantwell, Ross: sounds like the Trotsky bunch put on trial in the USSR in the '20s)
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To: CJHughes

His argument about the economy Bush inherited is disengenuous. It ignores the fact that 9/11 and the bursting of the dotcom bubble dramatically reduced federal revenues. It also ignores that the wonderful Clinton economy was largely an ilusion which was bound to collapse on its own eventually.


19 posted on 10/09/2004 10:40:07 PM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: Torie
Pathetic, but then I never supported Barr ever. I had his number early on.

Me neither.

20 posted on 10/09/2004 10:40:45 PM PDT by kesg
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