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October 8th Bush/Kerry Post-Debate LIVE Thread

Posted on 10/08/2004 5:43:50 PM PDT by andrew1957

October 8th Bush/Kerry Debate


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To: Torie

The disparity, from what I've read and heard, is between the various international standards and perceptions of intellectual property and its enforcement. The big Pharm companies give the franchise away to the Canadian, Asian and Euros because they want to protect themselves from the rote reverse engineering theft that can be done with most ANY drug or technology that is science based. They want to protect their brand franchise here, in their biggest markets. So we Americans pay while the rest of the world mounts us again.

Why wouldn't Merck, Microsoft or Paramount want to protect their risk investments? They're inventing something out of nothing, for every success they get return, they have copious investments that fail. They need to maximize their winners, or investment will dry up. But we pay so the Canucks can not only avoid paying for military, but for any intellectual property assets in pharmaceuticals, bioengineering, technology ... etc etc. It's wrong.

It's the World that should be sanctioned for that theft, its not Americans that should pay a premium as ransom to the dismal Canucks or the mortal enemy Chinese.

Let's let Bob and Doug McKenzie invent something for a change, and we'll steal it. I consider this kind of theft an economic act of war. And, our pols are playing right into it. If we start allowing our HUGE Federal buying pools to pay cut rate prices from Canada and Mexico - Upjohn, Merck, Baxter etc will just stop inventing stuff.


6,941 posted on 10/08/2004 9:15:09 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Mo1

Joe Trippi is down here in Sarasota, Florida running the campaign for Jan Schneider, socialist for congress, who is running against Katherine Harris. He must really enjoy losing.


6,942 posted on 10/08/2004 9:15:16 PM PDT by Mase (Some of my friends vote yes, some of my friends vote no and I always vote with my friends-JF'nK)
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To: gigi
Yea I'm surprised Ron hasn't mentioned yet that Kerry won cause he had a prettier tie.
6,943 posted on 10/08/2004 9:15:20 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: jq2

IT WAS HELD IN A BLIND TRUST.

Kerry is an idiot for raising this.


6,944 posted on 10/08/2004 9:15:27 PM PDT by amordei
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To: Clemenza

sKerry said W got $84 from a lumber company, and that made him/it a small business. W's response was "I own a lumber company? I didn't know that... Want some wood?"


6,945 posted on 10/08/2004 9:15:54 PM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: amordei

The media will turn it for him.


6,946 posted on 10/08/2004 9:16:20 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (I oil, lube, service & remotely operate the Republican attack machine!)
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To: Gracey

As they say in Texas, Gracey, Kerry is All hat and No Cattle.


6,947 posted on 10/08/2004 9:16:56 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: gigi

Acetaminophen.


6,948 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:00 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Barlowmaker

So we need to cross subsidize the perps, or they will steal the drug company patents eh? Sounds like extortion to me. I don't agree with the scenario, but if it is, bring it on! This cannot stand. It is repulsive.


6,949 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:01 PM PDT by Torie
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To: mathluv

HOO--AAAH! Thanks.


6,950 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:02 PM PDT by Clemenza (Kerry/Edwards=The Suede Denim Secret Police)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Shoppers Can Find Cheaper Drugs in U.S.
6,951 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:07 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Bullish

I noticed how every time F'n was asked a semi-tough question he would quickly segue into an attack on Bush.

^^^^^

I heard on the radio that CSPAN had the questions on the screen, so viewers could be reminded if the speaker was actually addressing the question. I don't know how many viewers CSPAN has for these events. They never say. Rather they say they do not get any ratings numbers.

It surely would have been easy to see that Kerry didn't stay anywhere near his question so many times.


6,952 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:08 PM PDT by maica
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To: Torie

Ok, You basically want to apply Robinson-Patman to extraterritorial drug transactions. I wonder if the courts will agree that the govt. has this authority.


6,953 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:09 PM PDT by amordei
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To: mplsconservative

Your right, somebody's in the DU crowd had somekind of auto play program going..boycott the damn things and do something worth while like DONATE to RNC or Swifties...and if you ain't got the bread, go dumpster dive, don't be too proud..our troops in the Middle East are going through a lot worst.

(Miss Barret, 8th Grade teacher, please forgive me.)


6,954 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:40 PM PDT by investigateworld ((SERIOUS TIME; DONATE to the Swifties NOW, Nov 3 is too late))
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis

Thanks for that link ... it sure would explain those numbers we are seeing and some of Trippi's comments

Bectcha these numbers are coming from the Deanies


6,955 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (The President's job is not to pass a global test, but to protect the American people.)
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To: Barlowmaker

LOL!! I was wondering if W is even aware of the double entendre.


6,956 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:48 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: Txsleuth
that occurred to me as well,

kerry is a snob

Bush won the debate!
6,957 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:49 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Torie
The point that GW didn't address is that the "drug companies" use "zone pricing" to recover their costs and to make profits. A result of this pricing strategy is that unsold drugs are sold at a discount to Canadian distributors.

And so, enterprisers have figured out how to counter this strategy by selling back into the USA. What F*ing fails to mention is that, were the government to intercede in this market, there would very likely be no more underpriced drugs provided for our socialist neighbors, and possibly fewer advanced drugs available in the USA.

So if Kerry understands this dynamic, he is a demagouge, and if he doesn't, he's a fool.

6,958 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:53 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

No, it won't. On the face of the charge is ridiculous. 84 dollars????


6,959 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:56 PM PDT by amordei
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To: gswilder

Kerry lost big time tonight and no matter how they spin it, it is going to deflate the hell out of Democrats and give a lot of enthusiam to Republicans.

It was momentum changer. I expect to see this in the polling data soon. (not internet polls)


6,960 posted on 10/08/2004 9:17:57 PM PDT by TheLion
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