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The UN and Your Guns
NRA ^ | 10/06/2004 | Konezone

Posted on 10/06/2004 12:16:58 PM PDT by KoneZone

My first Topic Post, I hope I did OK. The Antigunners are at it again and we had better pay attention. They have America in mind and if you think it's only guns they want then look out.


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By: "Wayne LaPierre of the NRA" Make plans now to watch iN DEMAND Pay-Per-View on October 12th for the 90-minute debate with international gun-ban ringleader Rebecca Peters. And after the debate, be sure to Vote on whether the U.S. Senate should approve the U.N.'s gun-ban treaty!

Rebecca Peters almost single-handedly brought gun confiscation to Australia and to England and is now the most feared gun-banner in the world. With more than 500 gun control organizations under her command worldwide, and with the unlimited financial backing of billionaire George Soros, she's determined to make gun confiscation a reality here in the United States -- through a U.N.-backed treaty that would be binding on every American citizen.

You and every American gun owner need to watch this debate -- and see first-hand this enormous and very real threat to our Second Amendment rights. Tune in on October 12th, and you'll see how gun banners have taken over the U.N. -- and how they intend to infect America with their anti-gun poison. You'll see for yourself how the biggest coalition of gun-ban organizations ever assembled on earth is working with the U.N. and with U.S. politicians to take away your rights.

You'll learn the truth about George Soros -- the foreign-born American financier who is spending his personal fortune to advance the global gun-ban movement as well as elect John Kerry to the White House on November 2nd. And you'll see for yourself why U.N. gun-ban extremists will be rejoicing around the world if John Kerry is elected President.

To prevent our nation from living under this soon-to-be-drafted United Nations gun control treaty in the years ahead, every American needs to know what the U.N. intends to do with our Second Amendment rights -- and every gun owner needs to watch this debate.

Please tune in to this historic debate. See the threat for yourself. And invite your gun-owning friends, neighbors and co-workers to watch with you.

I promise you, you'll never look at the U.N. in the same way again -- and you'll get the information you need to help defeat this U.N.-backed effort to ban our guns. Thanks in advance for watching -- and for Voting!

SHOWTIME:

Tuesday, October 12 9:00 p.m. - 10:30 p.m. Eastern Time HOW TO ORDER

iN DEMAND is the world's largest provider of Pay-Per-View television programming. Ordering methods vary from one local cable system to another, with the use of either your cable remote or your telephone. Call your local cable company for more information about its pay-per-view ordering process. Pricing is also determined by your local cable system. Please note that this debate will not be available on DIRECTV, Dish Network, or any other satellite network. Remember, the calling volume increases immediately before the start of an event. In order to avoid getting a busy signal we recommend that you place your order several hours beforehand. Thank you in advance for watching this important debate!!! For more information go to www.thegundebate.com.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE DEBATE: DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!

At the end of the debate, you'll be provided a password allowing you to vote, using the Internet or your telephone, on this critical question: Should the United States Senate ratify the proposed United Nations treaty that bans private ownership of firearms?

It's vitally important for gun owners to win this vote -- and show the world that we won't give up our Second Amendment rights without a fight! But only those who have ordered this Pay-Per-View show and obtained the password are allowed to vote. So please, make sure to watch at the end of the show for your password, then cast YOUR vote for freedom!

1 posted on 10/06/2004 12:16:58 PM PDT by KoneZone
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To: KoneZone

Um... that won't happen here. I dare say the consequences would be disastrous.


2 posted on 10/06/2004 12:18:43 PM PDT by Crazieman (Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: KoneZone

Sorry, This country does not listen to the UN.

If any foreign entity (or domestic enemy)attempts to remove our Constitutionaly Protected Right to "Keep and BEAR ARMS", they will face an ARMED RESISTANCE.


3 posted on 10/06/2004 12:21:20 PM PDT by hushpad
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To: KoneZone

Get US out of the UN, and kick the UN off US soil.

When will we learn this organization is crap.


4 posted on 10/06/2004 12:21:41 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: KoneZone

One question: why are issues that directly impact our Constitution only being shown on PAY-PER-VIEW?

Something is incredibly fishy here.


5 posted on 10/06/2004 12:21:57 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: KoneZone

I'm sure that the UN will think it's OK for "insurgents" or "freedom fighters" to keep their guns. Anyone but Republicans or white American males.

The UN, a good reason to keep and hide if necessary your guns. The best reason for keeping your guns is to keep the government, any government, afraid of you.


6 posted on 10/06/2004 12:23:29 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: hushpad

One of the things that will never happen in this country. One of the reasons a war on the ground in this country could never be won by anyone but us.


7 posted on 10/06/2004 12:25:39 PM PDT by mammer
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To: Crazieman

George Soros and the U.N. can come over and buy out my ammunition supply -- the price is one blue helmet per cartridge.


8 posted on 10/06/2004 12:25:47 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: KoneZone

Good post. Next time, you might put the article first, and your comments below, to follow the standard practice.


9 posted on 10/06/2004 12:26:03 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Crazieman

Would someone please explain how this treaty supercedes my second ammendment rights? And how do they plan on enforcing this treaty?


10 posted on 10/06/2004 12:26:17 PM PDT by Thaddeus
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To: Prime Choice
I agree. Why are we letting them butt their noses into our constitutional rights. The well worn phrase "From my dead cold hand" comes to mind should they want to pursue it.
11 posted on 10/06/2004 12:27:50 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: KoneZone
As has been so aptly stated elsewhere: They can have my gun when they pry my cold dead hand from it
12 posted on 10/06/2004 12:28:06 PM PDT by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: garyhope

The UN, a good reason to keep and hide if necessary your guns. <<

No need to hide our firearms from the UN - I'd shove them right up their terrorist-loving noses!

Besides, no matter what the vote, not enough States would ratify the necessary constitutional change - if they did, the rest of us (Patriots) would NOT allow it. And how would we stop the confiscation? Give you one guess. Just one.


13 posted on 10/06/2004 12:29:24 PM PDT by hushpad
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To: KoneZone
Wasn't there some discussion a few years ago on FR about confiscation scenarios?

I think it went something like this: If you estimate there are 20 million gun owners in the country, probably 5% (1,000,000) are militant enough to forcefully resist confiscation attempts. For the purpose of discussion, this 5% uses their guns in their resistance, and in the course of resistance, incapacitates 4 LEO who are attempting to enforce the confiscation law. That would mean that an estimated 4,000,000 LEO would be out of action. I don't know how many LEO are currently in the country, but I would guess that if confiscation were to start, then the country would need to start recruiting large numbers of new LEO right now.

Let me know if I am off base on this, but I'm pretty sure that's how the discussion flowed.
14 posted on 10/06/2004 12:30:13 PM PDT by posse rider (posserider)
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To: mammer

One of the reasons a war on the ground in this country could never be won by anyone but us.<<

That's right. A lot of people are armed, people foreign fighters might never suspect.

Not only are they armed - but ready to help the enemy die.


15 posted on 10/06/2004 12:33:03 PM PDT by hushpad
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To: Thaddeus

I don't know. Any treaty that conflicts with the Constitution is not binding. No one has the authority to "ban guns", here.


16 posted on 10/06/2004 12:33:27 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: KoneZone

perhaps she should travel to Iraq and tell Zarqawi to turn his gun in.


17 posted on 10/06/2004 12:34:15 PM PDT by BobinIL
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To: posse rider

I know more than a few LEOs that would be on our side.


18 posted on 10/06/2004 12:34:59 PM PDT by stevio (The Clinton '94 gun ban sunset! WooHoo!)
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To: Prime Choice
One question: why are issues that directly impact our Constitution only being shown on PAY-PER-VIEW? Something is incredibly fishy here.

Not sure, but I believe it has something to do with Campaign Finance Reform (not being able to broadcast to a general audience?). Who'd have thought that could have ever happened here?

Plug for an excellent video on what happens when gun rights are lost:

http://www.jpfo.org/ib-orders.htm

19 posted on 10/06/2004 12:35:07 PM PDT by badbass
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To: posse rider
I don't know how many LEO are currently in the country, but I would guess that if confiscation were to start, then the country would need to start recruiting large numbers of new LEO right now.

If this nation ever deteriorated to the point that our Second Amendment rights could be so willfully violated, and armed resistance became commonplace, then you can bet that the Posse Comitatus Act would be suspended as well.

That means we'd be having Ruby Ridge- and Waco-grade slaughters across this nation...and the National Guard and Reserves would be called in and martial law would follow very quickly. At that time, the legitimacy of the government would be no more and we'd effectively be living in a dictatorship.

The likelihood of this happening under a Democrat is significant.

20 posted on 10/06/2004 12:35:53 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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