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Wasn't there some discussion a few years ago on FR about confiscation scenarios?

I think it went something like this: If you estimate there are 20 million gun owners in the country, probably 5% (1,000,000) are militant enough to forcefully resist confiscation attempts. For the purpose of discussion, this 5% uses their guns in their resistance, and in the course of resistance, incapacitates 4 LEO who are attempting to enforce the confiscation law. That would mean that an estimated 4,000,000 LEO would be out of action. I don't know how many LEO are currently in the country, but I would guess that if confiscation were to start, then the country would need to start recruiting large numbers of new LEO right now.

Let me know if I am off base on this, but I'm pretty sure that's how the discussion flowed.

I don't know how many LEO are currently in the country, but I would guess that if confiscation were to start, then the country would need to start recruiting large numbers of new LEO right now.

If this nation ever deteriorated to the point that our Second Amendment rights could be so willfully violated, and armed resistance became commonplace, then you can bet that the Posse Comitatus Act would be suspended as well.

That means we'd be having Ruby Ridge- and Waco-grade slaughters across this nation...and the National Guard and Reserves would be called in and martial law would follow very quickly. At that time, the legitimacy of the government would be no more and we'd effectively be living in a dictatorship.

The likelihood of this happening under a Democrat is significant.

If you estimate there are 20 million gun owners in the country, probably 5% (1,000,000) are militant enough to forcefully resist confiscation attempts. For the purpose of discussion, this 5% uses their guns in their resistance, and in the course of resistance, incapacitates 4 LEO who are attempting to enforce the confiscation law. That would mean that an estimated 4,000,000 LEO would be out of action. I don't know how many LEO are currently in the country, but I would guess that if confiscation were to start, then the country would need to start recruiting large numbers of new LEO right now.

Actually increase your numbers. Figure that maybe 10% of those that resist will get away and repeat it again and again.

There are some people I know that will never be taken without at least a battalion of troops hitting their position.

The Second Amendment is the law of the land, right?

So any "officer" enforcing an order contrary to the Constitution would no longer be involved in "Law Enforcement," but instead piracy or thuggery.

Less than half of Law Enforcement Officers are thugs or pirates -- way, way less than half, I'd bet.

Therefore count on at least half of the LEO's to resist any unconstitutional confiscation scheme.

I think you are correct that if they tried outright confiscation from gun records, they would run out of LEO long before they got very far.

My opinion is that they would not go for outright confiscation. It would go something like this:

1- Kerry or whoever passes gun ban by executive order, to be effective on date X.
2- Up until date X, there is a nationwide amnesty to allow turning in guns with no questions asked.
3- Citizens are warned that after date X, if they still retain any banned guns they will be felons.
4- Date X comes and goes. Only about 10% of the estimated supply of banned guns have been turned in. They expect this.
5- BATFE begins monitoring and controlling the sale of all ammo in calibers usable in banned guns, along with reloading equipment.
6- When you order that next case of ammo, it is noticed.
7- Now if you ever take your nice rifles out of the closet to shoot or admire, better hope no one rats you out.
8- Possession becomes a sentencing enhancer for any crime. Laws are loosened to allow searches for weapons without a warrant.
9- Sooner or later you'll get a visit. You know you will. So you bury them.
10- What the hell good are they now? Welcome to UN America.