Posted on 10/02/2004 7:34:40 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger
"How the White House Used Disputed Arms Intelligence" NYT 10/3/04
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You have one of the greatest Freeper nicknames ever. Welcome aboard!
You take the Slimes article, I'll take the Compost article and on the count of three we'll start reading...
"October 3, 2004"
This is very series.
Good catch. I sent it to the various Wash Post reporters as well as bunch of bloggers.
Just to clarify - the NYT article was posted on Drudge. It will appear in the October 3 edition. I bet you guys thought I was using the John Kerry Crystal Ball...
Just heard on talk-radio that several papers are coordinating their attacks on "Bush flip-flops" just a day after George Soros made similar attack to the national Press Club.
THIS IS A FOREIGN BORN, HUNGARIAN, WHO RESIDES OUTSIDE THE US A GREAT DEAL OF THE TIME, WORKING WITH THE FOREIGN MULTINATIONAL MSM MEDIA TO TRY TO PUT IN THEIR MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!
WHO OF YOU PAJAMAHADEEN CAN DOCUMENT THE REPEATED PHRASES IN THE MEDIA, AND THE SOROS SPEECH here:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0928-16.htm
This is worse than CBS ! Someone document this, and get it to FOX, Rusg, so on.
Thanks CW but -- yawn.
How come libs are so boring?
A fool needs many words.
Good post. It seems a bit strange that it would take a cooperative effort by three New York Times reporters to plagiarize a year-old article by two Washington Post reporters.
Also, Walter Pincus of the Wash Po version is one of the reporters who seems to be "in bed" with Kerry staffer- er former Kerry campaign staffer- Joe Wilson, former Ambassador Joe Wilson of Niger/Yellowcake/Plamegate fame.
Media-Kerry collusion ping
NY TIMES
By DAVID BARSTOW
This article was reported by David Barstow, William J. Broad and Jeff Gerth, and was written by Mr. Barstow.WASH POST
Barton Gellman and Walter Pincus
Staff writers Glenn Kessler, Dana Priest and Richard Morin and staff researchers Lucy Shackelford, Madonna Lebling and Robert Thomason contributed to this report.
From the Wash post "letters to the editor section" here : [www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49199-2003Oct31.html]
The Hunt for Iraq's Weapons
Saturday, November 1, 2003; Page A21
The Oct. 26 front-page article "Search in Iraq Fails to Find Nuclear Threat" is wildly off the mark. Your reporter, Barton Gellman, bases much of his analysis on what he says was told to him by an Australian brigadier, Stephen D. Meekin. Gellman describes Meekin as someone "who commands the Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Center, the largest of a half-dozen units that report to [David] Kay."The writer is special adviser to the director of central intelligence.Meekin does not report, nor has he ever reported, to me in any individual capacity or as commander of the exploitation center. The work of the center did not form a part of my first interim report, which was delivered last month, nor do I direct what Meekin's organization does. The center's mission has never involved weapons of mass destruction, nor does it have any WMD expertise.
Gellman's description of information provided by Mahdi Obeidi, chief of Iraq's pre-1991 centrifuge program, relies on an unnamed "U.S. official" who, by the reporter's own admission, read only one reporting cable. How Gellman's source was able to describe reporting that covered four months is a mystery to me. Furthermore, the source mischaracterized our views on the reliability of Obeidi's information.
With regard to Obeidi's move to the United States, Gellman writes, "By summer's end, under unknown circumstances, Obeidi received permission to bring his family to an East Coast suburb in the United States." The reader is left with the impression that this move involved something manipulative or sinister. The "unknown circumstances" are called Public Law 110. This mechanism was created during the Cold War to give the director of central intelligence the authority to resettle those who help provide valuable intelligence information. Nothing unusual or mysterious here.
When the article moves to describe the actual work of the nuclear team, Gellman states that "frustrated members of the nuclear search team by late spring began calling themselves the 'book of the month club.' " But he fails to note that this was before the establishment of the Iraq Survey Group. In fact, the team's frustration with the pace of the work is what led President Bush to shift the responsibility for the WMD search to the director of central intelligence and to send me to Baghdad.
One would believe from what Gellman writes that I have sent home the two leaders of my nuclear team, William Domke and Jeffrey Bedell, and abandoned all attempts to determine the state of Iraq's nuclear activities. Wrong again. Domke's assignment had been twice extended well beyond what the Department of Energy had agreed to. He and Bedell were replaced with a much larger contingent of experts from DOE's National Labs.
Finally, with regard to the aluminum tubes, the tubes were certainly being imported and were being used for rockets. The question that continues to occupy us is whether similar tubes, with higher specifications, had other uses, specifically in nuclear centrifuges. Why anyone would think that we should want to confiscate the thousands of aluminum tubes of the lower specification is unclear. Our investigation is focused on whether a nuclear centrifuge program was either underway or in the planning stages, what design and components were being contemplated or used in such a program if it existed and the reason for the constant raising of the specifications of the tubes the Iraqis were importing clandestinely.
We have much work left to do before any conclusions can be reached on the state of possible Iraqi nuclear weapons program efforts. Your story gives the false impression that conclusions can already be drawn.
-- David Kay
Baghdad
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When Barton Gellman interviewed me last month I stressed on a number of occasions that my remarks related to Iraqi's conventional weapons program. I am responsible for aspects of that program as the commander of the coalition Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Center. I did not provide assessments or views on Iraq's nuclear program or the status of investigations being conducted by the Iraq Survey Group.The writer, a brigadier in the Australian Army, is commander of the coalition's Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Center in Iraq.On the issue of Iraq's use of aluminum tubes, I did confirm, in response to a question by Gellman, that aluminum tubes form the body of Iraqi 81mm battlefield rockets and that my teams had recovered some of these rockets for technical examination. Further, I stated that the empty tubes were innocuous in view of the large quantities of lethal Iraqi conventional weapons such as small arms, explosive ordnance and man-portable air defense systems in this country. I did not make any judgment on the suitability of the 81mm aluminum tubes as components in a nuclear program.
In discussing the disbanding of the Joint Captured Materiel Exploitation Center, I told your reporter that the center's work was largely complete, and I made clear that its role was in the realm of Iraq's conventional weapons and technologies.
Gellman attributed to me comments about the effect of U.N.-imposed sanctions. Again, I referred to Iraqi efforts to acquire conventional military equipment. I made no assessment about the effect of U.N. sanctions on Iraq's nuclear program.
-- Stephen D. Meekin
Baghdad
Uhhmmmm, welllll, err, they have to be similar, since they rely on the same facts, and we just report the facts.
Yeah, that's it! Just the facts, Ma'am; just the facts!
Now move along, this is a crime scene and your trespeasanting..I mean trespassing. Nothing to see here, keep moving.
There was a report of a South African aluminum tube plant being bought by China and shipped out... which is interesting because the IAEA has assured us that South Africa is secure. The UN would have a lot more egg on its face if its oversight of the South African antiproliferation efforts and its nuke program's shutdown turned out to be faulty.
South Africa I must note is also the country whose 'experts' flew to Iraq prior to the war with UN approval, apparently, to help Iraq dismantle its programs.
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