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Democrats Fear 'October Surprise'
AP News - from Tampa Bay Online ^ | Oct 2, 9:56 PM EDT | TOM RAUM

Posted on 10/02/2004 7:05:07 PM PDT by NewMediaFan

WASHINGTON (AP) -- In the presidential campaign's closing weeks, Democrats are bracing for an "October Surprise," an event so dramatic it could influence the election's outcome. The capture of Osama bin Laden, for instance.

It's part of American political lore: the party out of power worries about a last-minute surprise engineered by the party in power. Now that October has arrived and the election is just a month away, speculation is rife among Democrats that President Bush and political mastermind Karl Rove have some tricks up their sleeves.

"I assume that it will be something," said House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California. "We have to be ready for that."

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fearfuldems; massachurancandidate; octobersurprise; projection; setup4democtsurpriz
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To: Viking2002

My guess is the Swift Boat guys KNOW that JK was dishonorably discharged ... they were his commanders. I think the facts will come out from them and we will find that President Clinton had it "taken care of". They will have facts, documents, (real, not fake) showing his DD. Again, this is just my guess, I have no evidence. It just seems like the type of thing they have been talking about.


141 posted on 10/02/2004 8:11:46 PM PDT by JohnEBoy
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To: NewMediaFan

It's revealing, that the Dims fear the capture of Bin Laden. It's also telling that they have nothing to run on.


142 posted on 10/02/2004 8:11:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: devolve

143 posted on 10/02/2004 8:13:07 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: sartorius
My personal hope is that in the final debate, Bush calmly takes off his sports coat and proceeds to whale the living crap out of Kerry on TV. He'd win in a landslide in November since even some Dems in the audience might join in.

Man, that would be sweet! Like in the Japanese Diet when they start throwing chairs or when that Iraqi dude cursed the Kuwaiti diplomat's mustache. Something totally off the wall might get people interested in paying attention to the political scene again!
144 posted on 10/02/2004 8:13:43 PM PDT by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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To: NewMediaFan

Kerry met with the North Vietnamese in Paris,
then advocated their position to the American people
and governmennt.


145 posted on 10/02/2004 8:14:11 PM PDT by greasepaint
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To: Flamenco Lady

"How about a link showing the Kerry's were getting kickbacks from Saddam through the oil for food program for sales of WMD brokered by Kerry through France and Germany! LOL"

LOL I always forget Germany! You are good.

Ok Kerry got this position in Saddams evil money programs because.............(drum roll).....

JOHN KERRY is the secret LOVE CHILD of MADELINE ALBRIGHT and DAN RATHER!


146 posted on 10/02/2004 8:16:02 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: Viking2002

I'd pay to see that and add a few bucks so everyone could see it.


147 posted on 10/02/2004 8:16:04 PM PDT by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: NewMediaFan
Hey Hanoi Kerry are you ready?

Which one will do you in?

Your phony Vietnam medals and ribbons?

Your return to the States?

Your trip to Paris?

The VVAW assassination plot of US Senators?

Your less than honorable discharge?

Which one or ones is going to be?

Rot in Hell traitor and take Hanoi Jane with you!
148 posted on 10/02/2004 8:18:12 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Viking2002
Some guy also called Hannity the other day, and said there is in existence a tape of sKerry burning a US flag then taking a leak on it...

I heard the end of this call.

I fervently hope the movie exists and that Karl Rove has a copy. If it does, it might be an 8mm home movie. I doubt that the MSM taped anyone taking a piss.

149 posted on 10/02/2004 8:18:12 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: lasereye; devolve
This is just a case of what psychologists call projection. All the October surprises over the years have been by Dems.

I was thinking the (D)Rats would have a "November Surprise"...

... as in November 2000, when Philadelphia had a voter turnout of 100%.

150 posted on 10/02/2004 8:19:56 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: YankeeMagic

WMD I hope. Or better yet the Food for Oil scandle breaks big time. Everyone should know how Saddam bought off the UN Security Council. If that's not a case for war I don't know what is. Maybe undecided will think twice about the value of a global test for war and having endless summits like Kerry wants.


151 posted on 10/02/2004 8:20:45 PM PDT by foolscap
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To: All
HANOI KERRY
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BUSH DID

WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
WHAT IS YOUR SECRET?
WHAT DON'T YOU WANT
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You can read it online right now.

152 posted on 10/02/2004 8:21:46 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: Last Dakotan

They are bashing Bush for not replying to Kerry about this (fill in the blank) and not refuting Kerry's claims about that (fill in the blank) and so on and so on. As for Bush saying the same thing, that's a GOOD thing. What do you want him to do, contradict himself like Kerry did?

The debate went well for Bush so far as substance is concerned and that is what should matter most. It will to most people. Think of it this way, Kerry won the evening gown and swimsuit competiton but Bush won the talent competiton and the congeniality award. Those are the two that score highest.

I wish people posting here would stop running Bush and his manager down. The Dims do enough of that as it is. The debate went fine. It wasn't a perfect 10 for Bush but it was far from a Zero.


153 posted on 10/02/2004 8:22:29 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: NewMediaFan

"October Surprises" are not necessarily all engineered by the party in power. I believe in fact there are some October Surprises on their way overseas, by forces who want Kerry to win. The REAL October Surprise will be that their little antics will backfire, and further reassure the election of Bush.


154 posted on 10/02/2004 8:23:27 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo ( MSM is the nanny watchdog of everyone/everything; yet they explode w/rage when THEY are audited.)
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To: NewMediaFan

Bush needs to do one thing in the next debates to turn the entire thing around.

"The threat of terrorism has been exaggerated"-John Kerry.

Game.Set.Match.


155 posted on 10/02/2004 8:26:06 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: NewMediaFan
"I assume that it will be something," said House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California. "We have to be ready for that."

Well; for it to be good for the Repubs; it would have to be something good for America.

Now that IS something to send a shudder up the artificial spines of the Democrats.

Truth of the matter; there is only one group of people who believe that the end justifies any means; and that is America's New Demokrats. . .and when implementing 'those means'; are never to be held accountable. . .(where is Sandy Berger these days? Dan still doing the news?)

There is only one constituency that would offer that President Bush would essentially commit a treason against America so as to enhance his chances of winning; and not be held accountable.

And then there is the 'Florida Voter Fraud Myth'. . .only one constituency responsible for the lies. . .AND the fraud.

Cannot mention the above without thinking of the last gift of a President from the Democrats. . .

What the heck is Clinton doing; recovering without the benefit of the public eye? Not even a picture or a mention of his going home; leaving hospital in a weakened state and in a a wheel-chair?

Perhaps 'Clintons' Media' thinks he is another Roosevelt and must not be seen; in any kind of compromising/weakened condition. . .

156 posted on 10/02/2004 8:26:25 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: TeleStraightShooter


One precinct in Fort Lauderdale had a 107% turnout.

That is motivation!


157 posted on 10/02/2004 8:28:40 PM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: foolscap
WMD I hope. Or better yet the Food for Oil scandle breaks big time. Everyone should know how Saddam bought off the UN Security Council. If that's not a case for war I don't know what is. Maybe undecided will think twice about the value of a global test for war and having endless summits like Kerry wants.

It will be a triple surprise:
1. WMD
2. UN Oil for Food
3. Swift Vets and POWs for Truth
158 posted on 10/02/2004 8:31:49 PM PDT by igoramus987
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To: NewMediaFan
Something I posted as a reply to another thread ...

...In fact, I have a proposal: Why don't WE become the much feared (by the left) October Suprise? Many of us on this site have lurked and read for years, others (like myself) multiply information by passing it on to those who are better-connected. However, I doubt that the majority of those who read this site have ever really mobilized in a sustained (i.e. month-long) way. And by mobilized I think that looking at and using our existing spheres of influence and relationships has greater potential than one-time events. October groundswell Surprise suggestions and comments welcomed.

159 posted on 10/02/2004 8:34:33 PM PDT by Tirian
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To: NewMediaFan
"If you could create an "October Surprise" for the Democrats. What would it be?"

First week in October - Hillary Clinton is arrested for:

  1. when she attempts to kill her husband after catching him with another intern
  2. conspiracy in stealing FBI files
  3. voter fraud
  4. being a real b****

Second Week in October - Bill Clinton is arrested for:

  1. Lying under oath to Congress
  2. rape
  3. corrupting the morals of minors
  4. voter fraud
  5. accepting bribes (campaign contributions) from foreign governments
  6. selling national security secrets (nuke & missile tech.)
  7. being a real b******

Third Week in October - John Edwards is arrested for:

  1. falsifying evidence in several medical mal-practice trials in which he was plaintiff's attorney
  2. falsifying government documents in the CBS scandal and forging signatures

Fourth Week in October - John Kerry is arrested and charged with treason and other crimes for :

  1. meeting with the Commies in Paris
  2. giving aid & comfort to the enemy by lying to Congress
  3. conspiring to assassinate several US Senators (VVAW meeting)
  4. filing false after-action reports to get undeserved medals
  5. abandoning our POWs & MIAs by shredding documents and conspiring with the Communist government of Viet Nam

160 posted on 10/02/2004 8:36:49 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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