Posted on 10/02/2004 1:45:56 PM PDT by tsmith130
Edited on 10/02/2004 2:53:28 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
Sat Oct 02 2004 16:42:32 ET
New York-Sixty-one percent of Americans who watched the first presidential debate on September 30 say Sen. John Kerry won; 19 percent say President George W. Bush won and 16 percent say they tied, according to the latest Newsweek Poll which was conducted after the debate ended. Fifty-six percent say Kerry did better than they expected; 11 percent say so for Bush. Thirty-eight percent say Bush did worse than expected; 3 percent say so for Kerry, the poll shows.
The debate erased the lead the Bush/Cheney ticket has held over Kerry/Edwards in the Newsweek Poll since the Republican convention. In a three-way trial heat including Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo, among registered voters Kerry/Edwards leads Bush/Cheney 47 percent v. 45 percent with 2 percent for Nader/Camejo. In a two-way heat, Kerry/Edwards leads 49 percent v. 46 percent for Bush/Cheney, the poll shows.
A 62-percent majority of viewers says Kerry seemed more confident and self-assured (26% say so for Bush) and 51 percent say Kerry had better command of issues and facts (37% for Bush). Forty-seven percent say Kerry seemed more personally likeable (41 % for Bush) and 49 percent say Kerry came closer to reflecting their own views on most foreign policy issues (43% for Bush). The two were nearly even on several other points, including who came across as a strong leader (47% Kerry, 44% Bush) and who had a better plan for dealing with the situation in Iraq (45% for both). Forty percent of viewers thought Kerry was too wordy and 57 percent thought Bush was too repetitive.
Fifty-seven percent of all poll respondents say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time. Bush's job approval rating dropped two points from the Sept. 9-10 Newsweek Poll to 46 percent-a 6-point drop since the poll taken during and after the Republican convention. Forty-eight percent of registered voters polled say they would not like to see Bush re-elected but almost as many (46%) say they would.
Excerpt, the rest of the article is here: NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
Yup, but I find it interesting also, the trolls and sleepers. It's like liberals who frequently listen to Rush. I think it's because they are intrigued and NOT so much that they "are listening to the message of the enemy" or whatever lame excuse they offer about listening.
As a conservative I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to lurk at DUmmyville or tune into Err America....ever! I am so disinterested in what they have to say, (mostly because I already know it and it's so predictable) that I never even think of purposely listening to their drivel. So methinks the libs are more interested than they like to admit.
I was just about to say that. Good thing I read your response first! LOL
There is not a soul on this planet that doesn't know Bush's position on the WOT & national security in general. They could have put a cardboard cut out of G.W. on that stage and it wouldn't have hurt him. Kerry cannot NOT win this debate on this issue. He can only win on style, and style has no staying power with footage of Bush on the campaign trail erasing Thursday night's pictures with Kerry's own words.
Then how did W. lose ground in any poll?
A huge "YEP" bump.
Regards.
It must be the high expectations I had for this debate.
I mean, after trailing Kerry in the polls for months, Bush not only got a convention bounce but had a lead..for several polls..FINALLY.
With Americans finally seeming to get that National Security was the most important issue...
and the Swifties helping to nullify Kerry's "war hero" card ..
and polls showing Bush was the strongest in leadership on Iraq and terrorism ...
and Kerry's flip-flopping reputation was sticking..
Things were not only headed in the right direction but the voters FINALLY seemed to get it.
The first debate on Iraq/National Security/Terrorism was Bush's golden opportunity to take advantage of the momentum and play his STRONGEST card. He could have and should have put Kerry away.
He should have been on the offensive. Instead he was defensive.
He should have been confident. Instead he looked and acted unsure of himself.
Her should have known all of Kerry's flip-flops like the back of his hand and exploited his vulnerabilities, but instead Bush managed to come off as weak and frustrated.
I find this unbeleivable.
Bush managed to take a HUGE advantage coming into the debate and undo all of it with an awful debate performance that not only made Kerry look better, but gave the Dems all kinds of images to make fun of Bush with.
Yes I am "crestfallen".
I have this awful feeling that Bush has given Kerry the opening he needed to turn the tables in this race with only a few weeks left. I hope to God Bush wins in 4 weeks but after that debate I am bracing for the worst.
WOW! that really stung me. I have repented for voting for Clinton twice and Gore in 2000. I'm pretty sure God has forgiven me for those transgressions. I hope you can. I'm now a registered Republican, as is my hubby, and 4 of our children.
How do you know he did? And won't we ALL know the real truth Nov.2?
I would say most of us have been accussed of being Trolls at some point, don't sweat it. Part of the initiation. LOL
Word about Drudge: Sensational headlines boost his site ratings. He does have to eat, after all!
Me either. I don't go to those sites, the liberal ones. I hear you can pick up the cooties if you do..lol
So do I. I hate giving the leftist Kerry any hope of winning. One thing is for sure: We the average concerned citizen must get out there and make sure that our president wins. I am making that my sacred duty to America
I'm doing all I can to help w win.
Listen to Hugh Hewitt's take on the KRLA 870 webcast when you get some time out this weekend Jorge.
He nailed it IMO.
You care, therfore you worry. Hopefully you'll be heartened.
I do, and I was.
Regards!
Please pardon the ignorance of a newbie, but what does IMO, mean?
As I noted earlier, the poll is b.s. Here are the particulars via Power Line Blog...
UPDATE: Reader Meg Kreikemeier points out that according to RealClearPolitics, Newsweek's most recent poll included 345 Republicans, 364 Democrats and 278 independents. This compares to Newsweek's published data for their most recent prior poll, which showed President Bush with a comfortable lead: 391 Republicans,
300 Democrats and 270 independents. Yes, if you drop 46 Republicans and add 64 Democrats, you will get considerably better results for the Democratic nominee. This is a good reminder of why poll data always need to be taken with a grain of salt, especially until you see the underlying data.
My point about the Newsweek poll, however, was not that it was right, but that it and others like it will be the basis for a media effort to give the Kerry campaign momentum going down the stretch.
HINDROCKET adds: Dafydd ab Hugh weighs in:
Bush was doing 9 points better than Kerry among their respective parties in the last poll, and he's doing 9 points better than Kerry among their respective parties in this poll; and in addition, Kerry was up by 6 among independents last time but is only up by five this time. In absolute terms, Kerry lost support slightly in the new survey... but realistically, there was no statistical change whatsoever between the two.
But wait -- then how did Bush drop from being up by 6 last time (49-93) to being down by 2 this time (45-47)? Very simply:
Newsweek's sample had almost 41% Republicans last time but only 35% this time, and only 31% Democrats last time vs. 37% Democrats this time.
-T
Thanks!
OK. Thanks. IMO, W will win. Gotcha.
Newsweek is slanted to the left -- don't worry!
Thanks! And that is the medicine. We can win this thing outright Kerry is hollow and weak. He must not be allowed to get any more fresh air
"IMO" equals "In my opinion"
I used to put an "H" (for Humble) in between the M and H, but nobody here is falling for that ruse anymore.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.