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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

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To: nopardons

I hope you are right because Bush soooo deserves to be re-elected I was actually sick after this debate>


3,561 posted on 09/30/2004 11:16:58 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: musicman
"I live in Daytona Beach. I just had to fix my roof for the THIRD time, and will not be able to get it repaired properly for at least four WEEKS, because of backlogged homeowners like myself. My neighbors just got their electricity back on YESTERDAY. The town is so badly damaged on the beachside that it will take a VERY long time before it will monetarily recover.

That being said, I watched GWB touring some of the devastation in South Florida today. I wonder what Kerry was doing today, besides getting "pretty".

As I was getting ready for work starting at 4:00 pm, Neil Cavuto came across with a Fox News Alert, saying that there was a possible ANTHRAX attack at possibly 5-6 locations in Broward County, just north of Dade County where the debate was to be held.

Do you think the Secret Service RUSHED to inform Kerry of the possible attack, asked him if he needed FEMA to start a possible evacuation of say at least 2-3 thousand people (to start with), and check with homeland security to see if any other US cities have also been targeted, and see if the National Guard needs to be put on alert in Broward for help with evacuations if needed, and alert other states NATIONWIDE to be at the ready if needed.....LESS THAN FIVE HOURS BEFORE KERRY'S NATIONALLY TELEVISED DEBATE ???? And put Kerry on HOLD for around 90 or so minutes, until the possible anthrax attack was checked out for it's validity ???

Yes, I believe that GWB wanted to have somebody's ASS tonite on that stage!! After going through a possible terror attack less than 5 hours before his debate, I'm sure he would like to have the person's ASS that pulled this VERY WELL TIMED AND TOO CONVIENIENTLY PLACED fake attack. I also believe that after going through all that today, he would LOVE to have F'n's ASS, who IMMEDIATELY starts off calling him a LIAR, and HE"S NOT DOING HIS JOB !!!!!

F'n doesn't care about my roof problems, or much worse the people here in Florida who DON'T HAVE A HOME ANYMORE, NO JOB because their workplace was also destroyed. Worse yet, IMHO, F'n probably couldn't believe his "good fortune" with the anthrax "attack" RIGHT before the first and maybe MOST important prez debate. I DO believe GWB cares about me, and the American people, and unlike F'n, works 24/7-365 to KEEP IT THAT WAY. Do I think GWB's "performance" last nite was a little "less" that it could have been?? Yes I do. But I understand why, and that is why I think considering the "day" GWB had BEFORE the debate, I think he did just fine keeping his "cool" and NOT WALKING across the stage AND DECKING F'n FOR SAYING HE'S a LIAR and NOT DOING HIS JOB!! (I apologize for my "rant", but I felt it needed to be said after reading all the negative posts here tonite.Thanks !)"


My heart goes out to you, Musicman. These are tough time for the folks in Florida. You make a very good point. I thought Bush looked a bit rough at first. We forget what a burden he carries on his shoulders for all of us daily. He also knows how big the stakes are in this election. Bush is the adult and Kerry comes across as someone who has never grown up. Thanks for your insight on what our president was doing earlier this day.

Mr Sol
3,562 posted on 09/30/2004 11:17:06 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: Admin Moderator
John Kerry did well, the debate was basically a draw. Bush was tired, he sounded tired when he spoke about Iraq and insisted things would go well.

Bush didn't say anything new (nothing at least that jumps out at me). But Kerry did re-affirm some of his positions (which I assume means he will stick with them until Nov. 2nd). And in the coming days Kerry will have to answer for them.

The "global test" sound bite has already been used by Cheney to backhand Kerry. Kerry can be made to pay for his remarks about Korea (not unilateral enough). His "summit" idea can be ridiculed (who is he going to invite to the summit, countries who won't send troops no matter what or the "fradulent" "coalition of the coerced and bribed?" Who is coming to the party and what will it accomplish?)

That's my assessment, at least.

3,563 posted on 09/30/2004 11:17:07 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: nopardons

I guess I should have added </sarcasm>


3,564 posted on 09/30/2004 11:19:40 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: mabelkitty
Spent the first 30 seconds sucking up, and he talks with his hands too much. Very bad.

Why I could probably never run for office. People would think I was running for a parliament seat in France or Italy.

3,565 posted on 09/30/2004 11:19:40 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I have no idea and that is beside the point.
You can Gloom and Doom, Sky is falling all you want to.
I am not saying you in particular but some folks tonight have sounded just as parinoid as the dips over at DU.
I ain't buying it.


3,566 posted on 09/30/2004 11:21:17 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet, Son of 'nam Vet)
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To: musicman; Torie; Mo1

Bump to your post.

Rant on!


3,567 posted on 09/30/2004 11:21:28 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: conservative in nyc
President Bush did not get BULLDOZED in the debate. He held his own against repeated negative attacks from John Kerry.

I agree. The President showed incredible self-restraint and avoided some traps, like the question about Kerry's character.

3,568 posted on 09/30/2004 11:24:10 PM PDT by Otta B Sleepin ("Iraq isn't Vietnam, it's Guadalcanal." Powl Smith)
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To: MagnumRancid

If you haven't read "Flags of Our Fathers" by James Bradley, please do. It deepened my appreciation of my own father's service in ways too profound to describe.

Every man who set foot on Iwo Jima was a hero. Sadly, I didn't realize that until several years after my dad died.


3,569 posted on 09/30/2004 11:25:13 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: Fatalis

Darn. That's a deal-breaker. : )


3,570 posted on 09/30/2004 11:26:00 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: cwiz24

not unprecedented. Letterman gave hillary the answers to the quiz.


3,571 posted on 09/30/2004 11:32:22 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: All

I've been lurking a long time (most of the Bush 43 term) but after watching the debate I finally signed up tonight. I came here to find some inspirational posts to read to my mom. I've beem sitting at my computer ever since the debate ended reading through thousands of posts and feeling encouraged.

I pray continually for the entire conservative leadership: elected (Bush, Cheney, DeLay), political (Rove, Norquist), and informational (Rush, Sean, Laura, FoxNews, and Jay Severin, my local Bush-supporting talk show host). This is a time for those of us who believe in prayer to pour our hearts out for the future of this country.


3,572 posted on 09/30/2004 11:32:52 PM PDT by romans828
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To: SlowBoat407
"It's one of those slip-ups that happens late at night - or at 1:20 in the afternoon."

Too Funny

3,573 posted on 09/30/2004 11:39:20 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Do not denigrate people until you've walked in their shoes where they have walked.)
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To: Chesterbelloc

That really would have helped quite a lot! :-)


3,574 posted on 09/30/2004 11:39:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: patriciamary
FWIW,I usually am correct,when it comes to politics.Son buck up,shoulders back,stiff upper lip,and get out there,in the REAL world,and work your butt off,anyway you can,to help get President Bush re-elected.:-)
3,575 posted on 09/30/2004 11:41:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Somebody should tell the folks at DU that pacts with the Devil aren't legally binding."

Ya meen he flip-flops too? So that's who Kerry got his talking points from.

3,576 posted on 09/30/2004 11:44:10 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2 (Do not denigrate people until you've walked in their shoes where they have walked.)
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To: FastCoyote
Depend upon it, Coyote, that ANY use of nuclear weapons is problematical, mushroom cloud or no.

And after a dirty-bomb explosion there is still the problem of which country to attack. We can't and shouldn't level them all.

3,577 posted on 09/30/2004 11:45:52 PM PDT by Lee Shore (Oy, vay!)
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To: Admin Moderator
3500+ posts and I have not read them all but there is one thing I have not seen mentioned. A few days before a poster on this forum noted that they thought that Leher's bias would come out in the debates. I believe it did even though his bias in not in the same league as Rather or Jennings.

Hugh Hewitt on his blog rates the questions pretty accurately I believe. The question asking Bush to name a character defect in Kerry was unprofessional on Lehar's part IMHO as well as the "Hackles" question at the end.

Here is what I have not seen mentioned.

The moderator was allowed at his discretion to give out an extra 30 seconds if he thought it was warranted. When Jim started handing 30 second spots to Kerry and not to Bush I started keeping score on a notepad.

Jim handed out at least five extra 30 second responses to Kerry. Of the three he gave to Bush only one was given voluntarily. The other two Bush had to ask for. When he did give extra time to Bush he then turned around and all but once gave another closing 30 seconds to Kerry.

By the extra time alloted to the debaters Leher clearly favored Kerry.

Mr Sol
3,578 posted on 09/30/2004 11:50:37 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: romans828

Everything will be OK... Kerry was just giving a Big Bloated speech tonight like he is used to giving on the Senate floor... Say anything, mean nothing... nothing special... Bush was a little ill-at-ease having to stand so close to Kerry and take Kerry's traitorous mouth, but I bet you America will stick with a proven performer rather than swing over to some scary looking Bloviator. Kerry's hot air will disspate and Bush's common sense will remain...


3,579 posted on 09/30/2004 11:51:38 PM PDT by WashStateGirl
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

It's faster now at midnight, my time, LOL. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Take care!


3,580 posted on 09/30/2004 11:54:09 PM PDT by valleygal
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