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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: MagnumRancid

That should be "I" and it all depends on how old someone was,when "HAIR" was on Broadway,or when it was made into a "movie". LOL


3,461 posted on 09/30/2004 10:26:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: riri
But then, I found it odd that the President went into a debate armed only with five talking points.

The key in any campaign is staying on message!

Kerry will not be remembered for anything he did last night, but he will be remembered for a couple of sayings 'no need for tax cuts' 'global testing' these are the things people remember in the voting booth.

3,462 posted on 09/30/2004 10:27:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: nopardons

Dang! I thought I could get myself mixed up in a virtual love triangle! LOL
I'd have to say I'm a happily married, hetrosexual male, but I still like to flirt. :^)


3,463 posted on 09/30/2004 10:27:13 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet)
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To: COEXERJ145
BOTH Bush AND Kerry are selling better.

That's entirely consistent with the fact that, in terms of who will win on Nov. 2, instant polls are showing no difference in the spread in Bush's favor indicating he will win.

IT'S STILL OVER.


3,464 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:16 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: SlowBoat407
I hope that somewhere, somehow, the media will get out the point by point on Kerry's lies during the debate, as well as his outlandish proposals.

You think the MSM would put out something that would hurt their candidate?

Get REAL!

3,465 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: camboianchristmas

I'm the grandson of a WWII vet and the son of a 'nam vet.
I said old as me, I'm 50! I ain't old!


3,466 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:35 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet)
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To: tongue-tied
ROTFLOL!

Thanks for the humor break.

3,467 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Kristian
GOOD luck MR BUSH, FRM A THANKFUL eUROPEAN. tHANK YOU america.

You're certainly welcome, we were glad to do it!

May I ask where in Europe you are from?

3,468 posted on 09/30/2004 10:28:59 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: Fatalis

I am from TN!


3,469 posted on 09/30/2004 10:29:12 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (Grandson of IwoJimaVet)
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To: MagnumRancid
I don't disagree with you when you say we would survive a Kerry presidency. The problem is I don't just want to "survive". I want something more for my children and my country. However, with the wisdom of our forefathers, yes, we can survive 4 years. But, my belief is that we can not only survive, but prosper with President Bush continuing for another 4 years. But yeah, we (America) won't crumble beyond repair with Kerry as President. It will just mean more work for all of us four years from now, after Kerry tries ( unsuccessfully) to "negotiate" with these thugs. It would be a set back, but not the end of us. My preference is to go forward.
3,470 posted on 09/30/2004 10:29:57 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Celtic Rose
He's fairly moderate, and he said that Kerry didn't seem convincing to him.

Swing voters can smell insincerity right through the tube.

3,471 posted on 09/30/2004 10:30:01 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: Rennes Templar
I just got home. Missed it all. Who won?

If your definition of of "win" is who increased their chances of winning in November then President Bush won.

- There is one less debate opportunity for Kerry to use to close the gap.

- The key phrase coming out of this debate is "Global Test".

- And at the same President Bush lowered expectations for the next two debates making it much easier for him to be preceived as the winner.

3,472 posted on 09/30/2004 10:30:14 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: Fatalis

Exactly so! And though smoother than the president,in debate style,Kerry is NO Slick Willie.


3,473 posted on 09/30/2004 10:30:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You think the MSM would put out something that would hurt their candidate?

Get REAL!

My mistake. It's one of those slip-ups that happens late at night - or at 1:20 in the afternoon.

3,474 posted on 09/30/2004 10:30:26 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Yep. Kerry's for three things: higher taxes, sucking up to Koffi, the French & Germans and for giving Iran's Mad Mullahs an atom bomb. Yeah that'll deliver the country to him in a landslide in November. ;-)


3,475 posted on 09/30/2004 10:31:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: camboianchristmas

That probably makes you rather young.


3,476 posted on 09/30/2004 10:31:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MagnumRancid

I am 31, and now that I can see 50 up ahead, it does not seem so old to me anymore. I admire your optimism. I hope that you never let the years bring you down. :)


3,477 posted on 09/30/2004 10:31:27 PM PDT by camboianchristmas (when two or more or gathered in His name...great things happen)
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To: Denver Ditdat

I don't believe that anyone is undecided. The folks that want a)abortion at all costs, b)gay marriage and c)the unfettered Nanny State with EVERY last bell and whistle (that will end our nation btw) are DECIDED unless they REALLY understand how dangerous a CIC named Kerry could be, but even then, they like to see the military get whooped on and embarrassed. No ground, except obviously for the Lefty spinmeisters, has changed here tonight. The spin? Kerry's back in it, he's gaining, he's even now, it's a new race, blah, blah, blah - it ain't gonna change anyone's mind away from Bush as CIC for even one second.

I believe the wild card is the undertones that I believe sKerry is making to bring Madrid-type terror to America before the elections, which, I believe, could be a debate issue before the 3rd one is in the can...and being the Communist opportunist that Kerry is, he and the RATS will play that for ALL it's worth...


3,478 posted on 09/30/2004 10:31:32 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: tirednvirginia
The problem is they have a prayer thread going on over on the DU for Kerry, too.

Somebody should tell the folks at DU that pacts with the Devil aren't legally binding.

3,479 posted on 09/30/2004 10:31:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (If the Cambodia "lie" 100% discredits John O'Neill, what do 50 Cambodia lies do for Kerry?)
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To: MagnumRancid
I'm not familiar with the laws in your state. LOL
3,480 posted on 09/30/2004 10:32:26 PM PDT by Fatalis
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