Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion
"I think when this debate is broken down and looked at more carefully, Bush will come out as having the most coherent message. I only wish President Bush had hit Kerry a little harder on the details of what he said."
Given the limits on time to answer questions, I would take GWB's staying on message over using a sledge hammer.
However, I share your frustration.
Amen! That cry-baby needs to change his diaper.
Nicely stated. I'm finding it difficult to be truly positive about President Bush's performance tonight, but I agree with you that the debate wasn't an actual WIN for F'n either. I'm sure I'd feel much better if I had been able to find my bottle opener.
Have you been playing the drinking game?
My apologizies for my last post to you. It is late. I misread what you wrote. Better quit here now that this has started.
"I think we're going to see Cheney drop the hammer on every single point we wished Bush would have hammered on tonite."
You are 100 percent right. Cheney is going to nail Edwards to the wall, and say everything Bush said, but more fluently, as Cheney is the better debater. So, Cheney will get across in a more clear manner that which Bush said in tonite's debate with great earnestness, but not as smoothly. I really look forward to the Cheney/Edwards debate. It will be great fun.
I should be writing for the GOP ;)
"It's just not fair, Tonkin, and you d*mned well know it."
Buzz Off!
Kerry is a damm traitor!
I know it and every Viet Nam vet knows it.
And our job is to educate America!
The RNC has put out a statement about Kerry lying about saying that he never said that Bush lied. He has used that work several times and the RNC has the quotes to prove it.
Lying in a presidential debate is not good.
1) When Kerry mentioned his book "The New War" I was hoping The Prez would say "I'm not familiar with that book, but I remember your other book "The New Soldier", in which you slimed your brothers in arms...and what's up with this picture on the cover (pointing).
2) When Kerry mentioned meeting with other diplomats as a Senator in Paris, I was hoping The Prez would say "Oh--that was the time you met the VC in Paris while still a member of the military? Boy, you are smooth! I can't believe they didn't put you in Leavenworth for that one (wink)"
But these are just my greedy wishes. Like someone said earlier, the challenger has to KNOCK OUT the Champ to win.
I'm sorry, my mind went wandering when Kerry said he was the first US Senator in the USSR archives...
Did he ever say what he did with his KGB file?
Exactly. All of these phrases are political losers. Especially the line, "we didn't need that tax cut." That's as good as saying, "I'll raise your taxes." Kerry has had 14 positions on Iraq and he hasn't attempted to reconcile the contradictions in various positions - not tonight. As for "Give Iran Nuclear Fuel" - that is insanely stupid. I cannot believe he said that and will still protect America from the threat of nuclear proliferation. It sounds like appeasement. So in the long run, Kerry committed quite a few gaffes. Now someone needs to pound home the truth that Kerry is to the core, despite his protestations of loving our country, an anti-American radical who believes we must lose. If all of those comments don't tie together into a theme that goes against every thing people believe in about America, we won't score the debate correctly. I have faith in the American people and so does President Bush.
False, poster graphics are not on the server.
Your screenname "In The Defense of Liberty", hosted on the server with 25 characters does more to slow it down.
Shorten it!
Really? Who has a recording of this??? This might be something to pursue.
I agree with MNNJonnie. Kerry may have won the debate, but lost the election. This is the same so called contridiction you see in the polls. The polls say %60 think things are going bad in Iraq. Should mean BUsh is in trouble right? Then the same poll shows Bush with a 15 point lead on who better to deal with the problem in Iraq. People just don't trust Kerry to do what needs to be done. What specifics did he give tonight? The only specific I saw was on the the N Korea issue. I may disagree, but at least it was a specific approach. Of course, it had already failed, but.....
Don't get me wrong. I like that too. I was referring to moments when Kerry was speaking, Bush was sort of slumped against the podium. It made him look tired. It wasn't awful, just not the bouncy self-confident guy I've been seeing at all those wonderful rallies in the battleground states.
I'm not down about this. I think Effin gave the Bush team a lot of material to work with tonight...they are probably shooting commercials as I type this, depicting the differences in what JFK said tonight vs. his past statements.
The thing that has me down is my incredulity at the way Kerry spun the facts (very well)...i.e. he lied over and over and he got away with it. I just hate it when someone can tell baldfaced lies so convincingly! Add that to the vote fraud and I just get really depressed at what we're up against.
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