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Weaker Jack Daniel's Gets Sober Reception
AP ^ | 09/29/04 | MATT GOURAS

Posted on 09/29/2004 7:24:43 PM PDT by nypokerface

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - If you've noticed that your Jack Daniel's is carrying a little less kick these days, you're probably right. The famed "sippin' whiskey," which advertises a recipe traced back to the nation's first registered distillery, has lowered the alcohol content of its flagship brand, Old No.7 Black Label.

The whiskey now registers 80 proof, instead of 86 (or 40 percent alcohol versus 43 percent), and some drinkers feel betrayed.

"You can't screw with a legend like that and get away with it," said Frank Kelly Rich, editor of Modern Drunkard magazine. "I'm sure Jack is spinning in his grave."

The company says the switch was made because most customers prefer the less potent mix, which was marketed first in a few states and some overseas markets. The transition was completed earlier this year.

Those who want a stiffer drink can buy specialty versions like Jack Daniel's Single Barrel at 94 proof, the company said.

"We were just doing what we think most of our friends and customers wanted," said Roger Brashears, who has worked at Jack Daniel's in Lynchburg since the 1960s. "Our quality control is very scientific. It comes down to how it tastes."

The company touts Old No. 7 as "a simple reminder that some things just never change. And shouldn't. This is the old-time whiskey made as our fathers made it."

The uproar was started by a few whiskey drinkers who think Jack should stick to that promise. An online petition asking the company to switch back has gathered about 700 signatures.

"If that's what the people wanted, they would have announced it in an ad — 'Look we lowered the proof for you,'" said Rich, who calls his magazine "the voice of the recreational drinker."

Rich said the company pushed the change through without any fanfare and whiskey drinkers are just now picking up on it, saying it tastes sweeter and doesn't pack the same punch.

Jack Daniel's gets to 80 proof by adding a little more water to the raw whiskey that comes out of barrels after four years at roughly 125 proof, Brashears said.

"I can't tell the difference," he said. "We haven't done anything to affect the quality that has made us so many friends over the years."

It is not the first time drinkers have felt burned by Jack. Roughly 17 years ago, the company lowered the proof of its famed whiskey from 90 to 86.

Enough is enough, says Rich.

"I've switched to Maker's Mark since," he said. "I used to drink a bottle a week. Some of our board members drink three bottles a week. Once this gets out, it will be like the New Coke thing — they'll have to bring it back."

Competitors also jumped on Jack Daniel's. Kentucky's Jim Beam noted they have no plans to lower the alcohol content of their 210-year-old recipe.

"I think it's interesting that our primary competitor says they've been true to their roots yet they've lowered their proof and altered their recipe," said Dave Racicot, senior director of global marketing for the Kentucky whiskey.

The whiskey recipe is still the same, including four years of aging in wood barrels. Old No. 7, which Jack Daniel's says is the country's most popular whiskey with 7 million cases shipped last year, continues to sell well.

It is closing in on Johnnie Walker Black Label scotch whisky as the world's No. 1 seller, said Phil Lynch, spokesman for Brown-Forman, the Louisville, Ky.-based company that owns Jack Daniel's.

Lynch said the company uses the same ingredients and time-honored process it always has — including the charcoal filtering that makes Tennessee whiskey different than Kentucky bourbon.

Rich said the company was saving money by adding more water, but Jack Daniel's said any savings were canceled by the expense of having to change its labels.

"We don't think it's appropriate to have a magazine called Modern Drunkard dictate how we make our whiskey," Lynch said.


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KEYWORDS: alcohol; jackdaniels; watereddown
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To: wardaddy
I wonder what Keith thinks?

I thought this was Keith's preference:


101 posted on 09/30/2004 4:42:09 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ExSoldier
I'm not a WT fan, just don't like it.

But there's no accounting for taste when it comes to "distilled waters" - my favorite scotch is 10 year old Laphroaig, a single malt Islay whiskey (they make or used to make 15 and 18 year old, but I prefer the 10). Apparently the cognoscenti prefer Lagavulin, which comes from a distillery almost literally within a stone's throw of Laphroaig. They taste completely different though. I like the smoothness and seaweedy aroma of the Laphroaig, and think that Lagavulin tastes like paint thinner. But apparently everybody's mileage varies.

102 posted on 09/30/2004 4:47:28 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: nypokerface

http://www.buffalotrace.com

http://www.heavenhill.co.nz/prod01_copy(1).htm

http://www.bulleit.com/

http://www.woodfordreserve.com/

http://www.knobcreek.com/


103 posted on 09/30/2004 4:47:32 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: nypokerface
I took the Jack Daniels factory tour many years ago, very interesting. But now, good bye Jack. Sorry I have to go, but the jerks running the company just ruined your reputation. Like others have said, if I want more water in my J.D., I'll add it myself. I don't need anybodys help.
104 posted on 09/30/2004 4:53:21 AM PDT by Lockbar (Worried about lead poisoning? Then stop eating the paint chips, Dummy!)
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To: stylin19a
My doctor said I needed to cut down on my drinking by 20%. So I switched from 100 to 80 proof...hehehe. :))
105 posted on 09/30/2004 6:43:28 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: trashcanbred

I drink W L Weller, it is better and cheaper the JD.


106 posted on 09/30/2004 6:48:04 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Member of 3rd Pajamahadeen Division, 2nd Boxer Shorts Brigade, 4th Bunny Slipper Battalion)
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To: hotshu

You should all give Woodford Reserve a try. It's pricey but fantastic.


107 posted on 09/30/2004 7:13:48 AM PDT by ElTianti
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To: William Martel
> they'd better not say anything about our bourbon.

Yep -- see my post #55.

108 posted on 09/30/2004 7:16:45 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: nypokerface

I personally have no interest in a liquor that is often mixed with Coke.

I prefer a nice glass of Dewars with a cube or two of ice and maybe a side of seltzer.

Of course my first choice is a quality single malt, neat.

(which is what I order when someone says, "I'll get this round")


109 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:43 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: nypokerface
I never though they'd change Jack.
110 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:54 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: ko_kyi
I have a bottle of Buffalo Trace -- a memento of my trip to Kentucky last summer. It's the secret ingredient in the barbecue mop for my baby back ribs...

Although I haven't tried them, I have read good things about Woodford Reserve and especially about Blanton's.

111 posted on 09/30/2004 7:24:09 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Michael Barnes

Jim Beam indeed.


112 posted on 09/30/2004 7:31:48 AM PDT by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: FierceDraka

OLD FORESTER; 100 PROOF; REASONABLY PRICED. SMOOTH AS SILK!! :)))


113 posted on 09/30/2004 8:30:27 AM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Is nothing sacred any more?!?

Amen to that. Messing with whiskey is pure sacrilege.

114 posted on 09/30/2004 9:02:00 AM PDT by William Martel (Foreign stupidity makes America stronger.)
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To: DSHambone
Try Woodford Reserve and Knob Creek. You will never go back to anything else.
115 posted on 09/30/2004 9:17:17 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Buffalo Trace is sold in Montgomery County, MD govt-run liquor stores, as is Woodford Reserve. WR is a pleasant tasting, fairly sweet bourbon. It is sort of like Maker's Mark, but with flavor. (I don't like MM - it is to bourbon what vanilla is to Baskin-Robins)


116 posted on 09/30/2004 9:26:49 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: DSHambone

Rebel Yell .... Keith Richard's favorite likker.


117 posted on 09/30/2004 9:35:09 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Truth is, the whiskey family is a part of my youth. I rarely drink at all these days. when I do, the tendency is to gravitate to Bacardi Limone and Cranberry juice.
118 posted on 09/30/2004 3:27:37 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: ElTianti

I have a bottle that my sweetie gave me. I've been nursing for over a year now.


119 posted on 10/01/2004 7:58:55 PM PDT by hotshu (Borrowed tagline: "They can only cheat if it's close".)
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