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More on Asteroid Toutatis Passing Earth Sept 29th, 2004
Space.Com ^ | Sept 28th, 2004 | Robert Britt

Posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:19 PM PDT by missyme

A minor rumor has hatched on the Internet that a large and deadly asteroid will strike Earth this fall. Bulletin board discussions cite a 63 percent chance of impact, while concerned readers have e-mailed SPACE.com wondering if it is true.

Astronomers know of no such impending doom.

The rumors are likely rooted in a real event, however. On Sept. 29, 2004 an asteroid the size of a small city will make the closest known pass of such a very large space rock anytime this century.

While not dangerous for now, asteroid Toutatis is incredibly strange. And scientists are quite familiar with it, having bounced radar off the tumbling stone on previous flybys to generate computer renderings of its weird shape and movement.

Toutatis looks something like a dumbbell hurtling awkwardly through space. It has a crazy rotation that makes normal days impossible. Scientists can't explain the shape or the spin, but they're eager to learn more in September when, during the close pass, even backyard skywatchers will be able to spot the asteroid.

Well known path

The orbit of Toutatis is pinned down with better precision than any other large asteroid known to cross Earth's orbit. Toutatis' 4-year trek around the Sun ranges from just inside the Earth's path out to the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The asteroid visits us every four years.

This fall, it will zoom by our planet within a million miles, or about four times the distance to the Moon.

That's close by cosmic standards for an object that could cause global devastation. Toutatis hasn't been so near since the year 1353 and won't be that close again until 2562, NASA scientists have calculated. No other asteroid so large is known to have come so close in the past, though accurate tracking of space rocks is a fairly recent, high-tech skill that still leaves wide margins of error for many objects.

Toutatis is about 2.9 miles long and 1.5 miles wide (4.6 by 2.4 kilometers).

Many smaller space rocks have passed by much closer, well inside the Moon's orbit. Other asteroids in the size range of Toutatis have surely navigated that window, too, but were unseen in eras when the skies were not scanned so fully as today.

And throughout history, several asteroids and comets have hit the planet. In fact, an object the size of Mars hit Earth when it was very young, creating the Moon, scientists believe. But experts say the odds of a major collision in any year are extremely small. Any other near-Earth asteroid as big as Toutatis would almost surely be spotted decades or centuries before any possible impact.

The prediction of any such event would make huge news rather than small rumors.

Not dangerous, just bizarre

Asteroid Toutatis, officially numbered 4179, was discovered by French astronomers in 1989. Researchers can't predict far enough into the future to rule out Toutatis ever slamming into Earth, so it is listed officially as a Potentially Hazardous Asteroid. NASA says it won't hit for at least the next six centuries.

Meanwhile, previous close approaches have allowed intriguing radar examinations of one of the oddest things in space.

"The vast majority of asteroids and all the planets spin about a single axis, like a football thrown in a perfect spiral," explains Scott Hudson of Washington State University. "But Toutatis tumbles like a flubbed pass."

The result is a lack of anything resembling a normal day or night on the giant, pockmarked space rock.

Instead of a fixed north pole, Toutatis' axis of rotation wanders around in two separate cycles of 5.4 and 7.3 Earth-days. Stars seen from any location on the asteroid "would crisscross the sky, never following the same path twice,'' Hudson says.

More study planned

Steven Ostro at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory has, with Hudson, studied Toutatis via radar on previous flybys. Ostro told SPACE.com that the population of near-Earth asteroids -- hundreds bigger than 0.6 miles (1 kilometer) have been found in the past six years or so -- are now known to come in "a zoo of shapes." And there are other asteroids that don't rotate on a single, main axis.

"But Toutatis remains the only non-principal-axis rotator in the solar system whose shape and spin state are well defined," Ostro said. More radar observations this year will try to further refine the spin rate and orbit.

There is more to learn. For starters, scientists also can't yet say if Toutatis has a hard surface or a thick layer of loose dirt similar to the Moon.

"I'd very much like to know whether Toutatis' strange shape and ponderously slow, wobbly rotation are the result of collisional breaking apart or a gentle merger of the asteroid's two lobes, and when the responsible phenomena happened," Ostro said.

Answers to all these big questions might require an as-yet-unplanned visit.

"Because of the radar investigations, our physical characterization of Toutatis is the best we have for any Potentially Hazardous Asteroid," Ostro said. "But a spacecraft rendezvous could tell us a great deal more, and I would love to see this happen."

Looking both ways

On Sept. 29, backyard skywatchers on Earth can find Toutatis, providing they know where to look.

Toutatis won't be visible to the unaided eye. Ordinary binoculars should be sufficient for spotting it if the sky is clear and dark, says Alan Harris, of the Space Science Institute in Boulder, CO.

"However, to actually know what you're seeing, a small telescope would be useful," Harris says. That will allow you to detect the slow motion of Toutatis against background stars. The asteroid will appear as a point of light, much like a star. It is too far for surface details to be visible.

It's also interesting to ponder what Earth would look like form Toutatis. Ostro points out a simple relationship between the distance of Toutatis at this close approach and the size of the Moon. Toutatis will be four times farther than the Moon; the Moon is about ¼ the size of Earth.

"If you were on Toutatis and looked at Earth during the close approach, the Earth would look as large as the Full Moon does to us."


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To: SlowBoat407

Okay, but this is a big space rock that being the case why can't a peice break off and hurl at earth?


41 posted on 09/28/2004 6:20:35 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

Only severe sun spots can cause that to happen; they tangle the magnetic lines. That what the solar observatories are for.

Last spring they were so bad that they knotted up to the point of turning one of the TV satellites inside out, and and it started beaming what everybody's TV was seeing back to the studio! They had to launch a replacement.


42 posted on 09/28/2004 6:21:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: missyme
Okay, but this is a big space rock that being the case why can't a peice break off and hurl at earth?

Even if a piece broke off on its own, it would more than likely follow the laws of physics and travel along with the main asteroid, same path and speed, like an astronaut stepping outside the space station. It would take tremendous force to alter even a small piece of Toutatis to a course toward earth at this point.

43 posted on 09/28/2004 6:23:19 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

What about Post#38


44 posted on 09/28/2004 6:23:36 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

It would take a massive internal force to liberate and re-direct a chuck of rock to hurtle toward Earth. There is no massive force available on that dead rock.


45 posted on 09/28/2004 6:24:55 PM PDT by HighWheeler (def.- Democrats: n. from Greek; “democ” - many; “rats” - ugly, filthy, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: HighWheeler
There is no massive force available on that dead rock.

Again, sounding like the Kerry campaign. Is this cool, or what?

46 posted on 09/28/2004 6:26:03 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: SlowBoat407

hehhehheh! Good one!


47 posted on 09/28/2004 6:27:41 PM PDT by HighWheeler (def.- Democrats: n. from Greek; “democ” - many; “rats” - ugly, filthy, bloodsucking parasites.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Well it just seems to me after:

4 Major Hurricaines in Florida

A Moderate Size Earthquake in California Happened Today
Volcanic Activity blowing up in Washington and Hawaii
(Currently Going on)

Alaska Earthquake Happened today

Harvest Red Full Moon Tonight

A Big Asteroid Passing Earth

Something is going On???????


48 posted on 09/28/2004 6:28:44 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

Leg pulling! Go back & re-read #29. Ships don't "climb" lines of longitude, either.


49 posted on 09/28/2004 6:29:56 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: GreenHornet

LOL

Kerry a/k/a Toutatis, "son" of Dukakis...


50 posted on 09/28/2004 6:31:21 PM PDT by mikrofon (Poor John Kerry -- he was born with a forked tongue in his mouth...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Are you going to try and see the Asteroid in your yard tomorrow?


51 posted on 09/28/2004 6:31:32 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme

I agree, it's kind of strange for all of these things to be happening at once. I don't think Toutatis is large enough to be causing unusual gravitational effects, but it does seem like quite a bit of coincidence.


52 posted on 09/28/2004 6:32:23 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: missyme
Are you going to try and see the Asteroid in your yard tomorrow?

If it's in her yard, it's going to be pretty hard to miss. (rim shot, please)

53 posted on 09/28/2004 6:33:56 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: missyme
Are you going to try and see the Asteroid in your yard tomorrow?

If it's in her yard, it's going to be pretty hard to miss. (rim shot, please)

54 posted on 09/28/2004 6:34:39 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: SlowBoat407

Or his yard


55 posted on 09/28/2004 6:35:08 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: SlowBoat407

I Know!
I am in the San Diego Ca Area it's still light out and very clear not one Cloud but I will be outside when it gets dark and give a Moon Report....

I don't think the Astronmers know all there
is to know about Space they know alot but not everything so all this crazy weather has something to do with maybe some kinda pull who knows we can guess too!


56 posted on 09/28/2004 6:36:00 PM PDT by missyme
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To: SlowBoat407

Huh? Oh wait like it's in his yard???


57 posted on 09/28/2004 6:37:39 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
It's a sign from god that you should send all you money to me! Or it's a omen of bad things to come..
58 posted on 09/28/2004 6:37:56 PM PDT by scab4faa (United we stand. Divided we Kerry.)
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To: missyme

Our local area is pretty well charted, except for chunks of debris like the Kerry campaign. Anything that could steer the Kerry campaign or cause widespread effect on earth is pretty well accounted for, but that doesn't rule out the odd surprise.


59 posted on 09/28/2004 6:38:59 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I voted for Bush... before I voted for Bush.)
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To: missyme
What if it changes course like a hurricaine?

John Edwards channeled Sir Isaac Newton for me, and he guarantees that you have nothing to worry about.

60 posted on 09/28/2004 6:39:32 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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