Posted on 09/21/2004 4:47:21 PM PDT by Henchster
Shortly after the 2002 election, after watching the cadaver Lautenberg easily win after Torricelli had been way behind, I realized that assault on democracy, which well call the Torch Lighting, was simply a dry run for the real thing in 2004.
Everyone knows Hillary wants to be Queen, and not just of New York. Yet even Hillary the Vain knows she cant survive a year-long campaign, either her mouth or her past would catch up to her, and that would be the end of that. No, she needs a dramatically shortened campaign season to be successful.
How amazing that first Howard Dean and the other Dem hopefuls go down in flames, and Kerry, whose own campaign was on verge of collapse in December, rises up to be the nominee.
How convenient that Kerry emphasizes his brief Vietnam history, as flawed as it is, to focus his attacks on President Bushs Guard service. And yet, he flip-flopped from being for the war when he seeking the nomination, to being against it, and attacking the President on his Iraq War policy.
How ironic that Kerrys own service record falls apart under scrutiny, and his own campaign gets caught in a forged military records scandal.
These are NOT coincidences. Behind the scenes, for the last four years, the Clintons have been charting the course, picking the players, setting the policy, and tracking the results. When Dean looked poised to run away with the nomination, the Clintons whispered into the ears of fatcats in smokey back rooms that maybe they should get on the Kerry wagon, and Dean was gone faster than you could say YEEEAAAARRRGGGHH! Remember though, it wasnt the Dean-Scream that caused his plunge, the scream was the result of the Clinton influence that worked the least-liked, most wishy-washy, dopey, overly nuanced dork of the whole bunch from worst to first. Even Kucinich had more gravitas.
And now, the Clintons are ready, and in the perfect position, for the biggest power-play of their lives. The Torch Lighting of Kerry has started, and it will only be days before you begin to hear the grumblings of the liberal masses that Kerry is a loser, and maybe should be replaced. Once the media even starts to talk about the story, Kerry is French toast, and the move to replace Kerry with Hillary will be all but complete, with just the coronation speech to cap it off.
Heres my comment in August on the following post. Its worked out so far, and theres no reason to believe the Clintons would stop now:
1) Next week, RNC convention and very Presidential speech net Bush a 10 point lead in some polls.
2) Sep 5-15. Kerry continues to flip-flop, and get caught in more lies about his Vietnam "service."
3) Sep 15-25. Media covers Kerry implosion 24/7. Dems panic, launch "Torricelli Switch" trial balloon.
4) Sep 25-30. Kerry, under pressure from every side, drops out for X reason. (X = health, family, ?whatever dumb thing Kerry thinks of?)
5) Oct 1. Hillary "drafted" by Dems, makes droning "Ya know" speech. Liberal media go nuts, 24/7 Hillary love fest begins.
6) Month of Oct. Hillary gets clobbered by Bush in debates - liberal media still oozes Clinton DNA over her "Strong performances."
7) Nov 2. Hillary wins by narrow margin as liberal precincts around the country report record turnout - 150-200% in some cases.
Don't laugh, she's running THIS year. Everything is perfectly aligned, just as the Clintons have planned it since January 2001.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
9 posted on 08/26/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by Henchster
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OK, things are going precisely as they have planned it, so what can us Freepers do to wreck this train before it even leaves the station?
Get the word out. Tell your friends, relatives, and especially, any news types you know. We need the story that Hillary is waiting to replace Kerry to be out there BEFORE it happens. That eliminates the media excitement factor to a degree.
Keep our eyes open for signs. Signs of a candidate in such deep trouble, hes starting to inflate the life raft.
Signs like:
Campaign stop or fundraiser cancellations. Post these ASAP and imply that Kerry is dropping out and will be replaced by Hillary any moment now.
Associates distancing themselves from Kerry. Like Edwards has already done! Michael Moore made some comments on how Kerry is a loser, but theyre stuck with him, so they need to make the best of it. Comments like that are just one short step away from abandonment.
Dont be complacent that Hillary cant win. Shell get virtually every vote that Gore got in 2000, plus a few female Bush voters who will vote for her just because shes a woman, and dont forget that vote fraud, theres no way theyll mess up again like they did in Florida by spiking the Buchanan hole instead of the Gore one.
Interesting theory....make the candidate so damned worthless, dorky, stiff, freakish, and hopeless as possible so the thought of Hillary stepping in induces orgasms in the loony libs....I doubt this will happen but who would have thought CBS would do what they did.
Thank you - thank you! I couldn't have said it better - in all caps, no less.
That is irrelevant.
If she "replaces" Kerry, she does not need to replace him on the ballot.
All that is needed is for Kerry (or his widow, I don't think HRC has made a final decision on THAT) and the DNC to instruct electors chosen on the Democratic line to vote for HRC instead of Kerry.
This is perfectly legal AND (for the first time in HRC's life) Constitutional.
Ballots are being printed in most states. There is no way to get 50 states to "erase" Kerry and put in "Rodman"-Clinton.
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Not gonna happen.
Not every state is New Jersey.
Perhaps she could not be legally placed on the ballot, but the electors who are on the ballot would be free to vote for her instead of Kerry.
Withdrawing Kerry would only ensure further chaos in the DNC.
Hillary could have stepped in at any moment right up to the convention, but she has left it far too late to be recruited to save the party.
It's one thing to replace a candidate who dies or becomes seriously incapacitated during the campaign; it's quite another to replace one just because he's proven to be undesirable.
Utter nonsense. Kerry isn't interested in dropping out. He's lived his entire life for this moment.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the democrats only replace kerry if he's either incapacitated or dead? The filing deadline is long past.
And she doesn't even have to replace Kerry. All she has to do is campaign to vote the Dem party line. She can then, behind the scenes, convince the Dem electors that Kerry is Unfit for Command, so they should vote for her.
Of course, some might vote for Edwards as well, but she wouldn't have to actually lose the election which is her primary fear.
unless they found Kerry lying face down in Ft. Marcy Park, I don't think so.
... or Kerry, et al, take a flight on Ron Brown Airways
If 271 Democrat electors are chosen on 11/2/04, they can vote for HRC if they choose to do so when the electoral college casts its votes.
State laws to the contrary are unconstitutional.
Henchster is a rock solid, long time, FReeper, who has seen FReep combat on a number of occassions. He's a very smart guy; no tinfoil. He doesn't now, and never will, discredit FR. Give him a break, and consider the post in the nature of one of those politcal thriller novels. Remember New Jersey. It could happen.
This posting is sure right about one thing. Hillary could never survive a year long campaign. Private groups (say, 527s) would tear her apart even if the cowardly GOP was too polite to do so.
I've been wondering about that. What keeps the electors for Kerry from just staying on the ballot, then electing Hillary in the Electoral college?
They tried that with Algore. The only thing they've succeed in doing with Kerry is find a way to outdo Algore in terms of worthlessness, dorkiness, freakishness, and hopelessness, but even with Kerry it won't be enough.
That was when they were actually in power. The Clinton years actually helped us by turning the majority of the populus more towards conservatism. This is evidenced by the majority we have in the House, the Senate, and the number of GOP candidates elected in statewide offices over the last 12 years. Don't get your panties in a bunch about Billary, it ain't gonna happen.
Amen to that
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