Posted on 09/21/2004 4:47:21 PM PDT by Henchster
Shortly after the 2002 election, after watching the cadaver Lautenberg easily win after Torricelli had been way behind, I realized that assault on democracy, which we’ll call the “Torch Lighting,” was simply a dry run for the real thing in 2004.
Everyone knows Hillary wants to be Queen, and not just of New York. Yet even Hillary the Vain knows she can’t survive a year-long campaign, either her mouth or her past would catch up to her, and that would be the end of that. No, she needs a dramatically shortened campaign season to be successful.
How amazing that first Howard Dean and the other Dem hopefuls go down in flames, and Kerry, whose own campaign was on verge of collapse in December, rises up to be the nominee.
How convenient that Kerry emphasizes his brief Vietnam history, as flawed as it is, to focus his attacks on President Bush’s Guard service. And yet, he flip-flopped from being for the war when he seeking the nomination, to being against it, and attacking the President on his Iraq War policy.
How ironic that Kerry’s own service record falls apart under scrutiny, and his own campaign gets caught in a forged military records scandal.
These are NOT coincidences. Behind the scenes, for the last four years, the Clintons have been charting the course, picking the players, setting the policy, and tracking the results. When Dean looked poised to run away with the nomination, the Clintons whispered into the ears of fatcats in smokey back rooms that maybe they should get on the Kerry wagon, and Dean was gone faster than you could say “YEEEAAAARRRGGGHH!” Remember though, it wasn’t the Dean-Scream that caused his plunge, the scream was the result – of the Clinton influence that worked the least-liked, most wishy-washy, dopey, overly nuanced dork of the whole bunch from worst to first. Even Kucinich had more gravitas.
And now, the Clintons are ready, and in the perfect position, for the biggest power-play of their lives. The “Torch Lighting” of Kerry has started, and it will only be days before you begin to hear the grumblings of the liberal masses that Kerry is a loser, and maybe should be replaced. Once the media even starts to talk about the story, Kerry is French toast, and the move to replace Kerry with Hillary will be all but complete, with just the coronation speech to cap it off.
Here’s my comment in August on the following post. It’s worked out so far, and there’s no reason to believe the Clintons would stop now:
1) Next week, RNC convention and very Presidential speech net Bush a 10 point lead in some polls.
2) Sep 5-15. Kerry continues to flip-flop, and get caught in more lies about his Vietnam "service."
3) Sep 15-25. Media covers Kerry implosion 24/7. Dems panic, launch "Torricelli Switch" trial balloon.
4) Sep 25-30. Kerry, under pressure from every side, drops out for X reason. (X = health, family, ?whatever dumb thing Kerry thinks of?)
5) Oct 1. Hillary "drafted" by Dems, makes droning "Ya know" speech. Liberal media go nuts, 24/7 Hillary love fest begins.
6) Month of Oct. Hillary gets clobbered by Bush in debates - liberal media still oozes Clinton DNA over her "Strong performances."
7) Nov 2. Hillary wins by narrow margin as liberal precincts around the country report record turnout - 150-200% in some cases.
Don't laugh, she's running THIS year. Everything is perfectly aligned, just as the Clintons have planned it since January 2001.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
9 posted on 08/26/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by Henchster
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OK, things are going precisely as they have planned it, so what can us Freepers do to wreck this train before it even leaves the station?
Get the word out. Tell your friends, relatives, and especially, any news types you know. We need the story that Hillary is waiting to replace Kerry to be out there BEFORE it happens. That eliminates the media excitement factor to a degree.
Keep our eyes open for signs. Signs of a candidate in such deep trouble, he’s starting to inflate the life raft.
Signs like:
Campaign stop or fundraiser cancellations. Post these ASAP and imply that Kerry is dropping out and will be replaced by Hillary any moment now.
Associates distancing themselves from Kerry. Like Edwards has already done! Michael Moore made some comments on how Kerry is a loser, but they’re stuck with him, so they need to make the best of it. Comments like that are just one short step away from abandonment.
Don’t be complacent that Hillary can’t win. She’ll get virtually every vote that Gore got in 2000, plus a few female Bush voters who will vote for her just because she’s a woman, and don’t forget that vote fraud, there’s no way they’ll mess up again like they did in Florida by spiking the Buchanan hole instead of the Gore one.
I'll be the secret servicer on that ticket any day, or night.
On the Shepard Smith report tonight it was reported that there was some nut running around New York last night or tonight, who gave his keys to his neighbor, "saying take what you want, I won't be back. I am going to kill the president and John Kerry".
Don't people always say that truth is stranger than fiction.
I am quite sure that one "HRC takes over" scenario is a Reichstag Fire in which Kerry is removed by a right wing Christian blogger with a recently deregulated "assault rifle".
She's probably polling it right now.
agree.... she's too smart to wade in Kerry's swamp. She will wait for '08.
She would not have to get on the ballot. All the ballot does is elect the electors in the electoral college. They can then vote for whoever they want to.
No matter if she replaces Kerry or not, it's going to be one wild month of October!
Won't happen unless there's an annointment involved.
absurd. I thought I was reading a DU theory.
"Not gonna happen.
Not every state is New Jersey."
Hey! We resemble that remark :o(
I'll only relax on Jan 20th.
Sorry you've been subjected to flamethrowers on this thread.
After all, this is a discussion thread.
She said it herself a little while back. She said she wouldn't be surprised if some unforseen event happened in October. Doesn't anyone remember? I feel like I am living in a parallel universe.
Let's be realistic. Bush surge in the polls is based on the fact that Kerry is weak on security and Bush is strong.
That dynamic would not be changed with Hillary and might actually be worse...Hillary did not go to Vietnam with a gun.
She would "frenzy" up the rats, hollywood and the MSM but would not attrack the middle and would energize the right against her.
Easier to shoot for 2008...that's why Kerry HAS TO LOSE.
>> I'm not arguing, just asking.
> You intimated I was "wearing tinfoil."
Unintended. By "tinfoil hat land" I was refering to
the thread.
>> I see the ballot games as insurmountable
> You are incorrect on that count.
I'm speaking of the paper and electronic ballots, some
of which may already prepared. In at least a few states,
I presume it is already too late to initiate processes
to get Kerry's name changed. Am I mistaken?
Or is the point that it might not matter if Kerry's name
remained on a few states, as the electors "he" won would
vote for the ringer.
> USC
Thanks. I'll check it out.
I hope you are right because GWB will destroy The Witch.
But it ain't gonna happen. You give her waaaaay too much credit.
PS - please stop using that name to describe FReepers. We are not Islamic Jihadists. Try Pajama Patriots or Pajama Patrol or anything but 'hadeens'.
THIS IS NEWLAND AND I APPROVE THIS POST
Being a long time FReeper, I knew what I was getting myself into with this post, and of course, put on my asbestos undies under my flame-proof pajamas.
I respectfully disagree. It's too late for Hillary to run. Expect her at 2008.
For talking purposes, it wouldn't matter if the names "Kerry/Edwards" were on all of the ballots. We aren't voting for the candidates, we vote for electors that represent political parties.
But, because the candidates' names appear on the ballots, people naturally assume they are voting for the candidates. But President/VP elections are very different from all others.
Again, the barrier that I see to the entire switcheroo-scenario is the DEM party obtaining a majority of the electoral votes. Without that, the point is moot.
Well, lets see who won't be on any ballots,
Ron Brown
Vince Foster
Elian Gonzalez
The poor folks at Waco
Randy Weaver
Monica Lewinsky
Paula Jones
Gennifer Flowers
Juanita Broadrick
Danny Ferguson
Dick Morris
Dan Lassiter
................the list goes on and on. Why won't these people and countless others be on ballots anywhere for anything because they have been destroyed in some form or fashion by guess who.
How quickly people forget.
Hillary doesn't have to replace Kerry. she , if possible and legal, gets on the ballot as another candidate. She could swing to the middle and siphon off votes from Bush and Kerry. highly unlikely we will see this happen, but it has been a race with some interesting turns already.
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