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Running list of issues from the Dan Rather interview of Killian's secretary, Marion Carr Knox
CBS News 60 Minutes ^ | 9/15/2004 | Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Posted on 09/15/2004 8:21:02 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

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To: DJtex

All I heard from Teflon Dan (think Steely Dan in the book Naked Lunch) was arrogance at being challenged as a journalist, I saw no real sign of admission.


41 posted on 09/15/2004 9:11:46 PM PDT by Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
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To: kingu
kingu: "2) She recalls Knox saying that Killian didn't believe that Bush was fit to be governor; wasn't Bush elected governor after both Killian and Knox were out of the TANG, and if so, how did they happen to have this conversation?"

I couldn't find any reference to that in the version on CBS' web site. Can anyone confirm such a mention (which I think would prove senility more than malfeasance on Knox' part.) If so, the fact that Killian died in 1984, while Bush was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, would prove one or the other. (Were they really talking about Bush for Governor by 1984? Also, I think Knox retired in 1979.)

42 posted on 09/15/2004 9:16:43 PM PDT by DWPittelli
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To: DWPittelli

I'm really hoping that my wife was wrong; something that obviously wrong would have had to be edited out of the interview, to do otherwise would be just plain stupid.


43 posted on 09/15/2004 9:18:46 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Gary Killian said he had known Knox since he was 6 years old. He also said she was not his father's assistant, but she was a typist from the typing pool that all the officers used.

If find this exchange interesting:
Rather asks her if Bush got in on the basis of preference, her unchallenged response is "I am going to say that he did. I feel that he did." How in the world would she know the reasons he got into the Guard in Texas four years earlier? She was in Alabama at the end of his service.


44 posted on 09/15/2004 9:22:28 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Name 5.

John Connally's son, both of Lloyd Bensen's sons, H.L. Hunt's grandson, and Bobby Sakowitz are the names that keep popping up, but that's just W's unit.

45 posted on 09/15/2004 9:39:08 PM PDT by uberPatriot
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To: kingu
2) She recalls Knox saying that Killian didn't believe that Bush was fit to be governor; wasn't Bush elected governor after both Killian and Knox were out of the TANG, and if so, how did they happen to have this conversation?

This one's interesting because Killian died in 1984. Bush became governor of Texas in 1994, ten years later. Hmmmmm...

46 posted on 09/15/2004 9:44:48 PM PDT by blake6900
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

"DAN RATHER received preferential treatment to get into the National MEDIA and once accepted, failed to satisfy the requirements of his service."


47 posted on 09/15/2004 9:45:25 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

Send it to Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post. I really believe he is being an investigative journalist on this issue. He has failed on the SWIFTboat vets issues, but he seems to be pushing this one. I'm not saying he is on our side, just that he seems to be hitting this one hard, regardless of his political leanings. I could be wrong, but that's what I see right now.


48 posted on 09/15/2004 9:51:35 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne
Rather - "Did you type ones like this?" Knox - "Yes" Rather - "Containing the same or identical information?" Knox - "The same information, yes"

I would have preferred something more concrete and definitive...something more like, "Did you type documents like these with George W. Bush's name on them? And, if so, where do you think those documents are right now?"

I didn't see or hear that. And the fact that this woman has been all over the place-"I knew Bush." "I didn't know Bush". etc.-calls out for a "newsman" like Dan Rather to "nail it down" much like he did with the Coast Guard spokesman during John-John's plane crash that told him, "Howard Stern thinks you're a dick!"

49 posted on 09/15/2004 9:53:03 PM PDT by blake6900
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To: Mr_Mary_Jo_Kopechne

How does a secretary, at battalion headquarters, know of the personal interactions between junior officers? The other pilots were resentful of LT Bush? How in the world would she know that? I was in the Army for 4.5 years, and from my experience, junior officers don't hang out at battalion headquarters for the clerks to even know who they are.


50 posted on 09/15/2004 9:55:00 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: uberPatriot
John Connally's son, both of Lloyd Bensen's sons, H.L. Hunt's grandson, and Bobby Sakowitz are the names that keep popping up, but that's just W's unit.

LOL! When this story first broke, Geraldine Ferarro was on some talking head show. Her argument was:

* The charges against Bush are absolutely true because when she was a Congressperson, she used to pull strings for wealthy people all the time.

* These charges are outrageous and prove that George W. Bush is Unfit To Command.

51 posted on 09/16/2004 3:49:43 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
One more reason to be delighted that she never got a sniff of the White House, huh? Even Barnes admits that no one in the Bush family ever requested any string-pulling, so even if the "charges" are true, is W supposed to be unfit for command because of something he had no part in? Boggles the mind, doesn't it?
52 posted on 09/16/2004 8:51:51 AM PDT by uberPatriot
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To: MindBender26

I'm suspicious too. I also wonder how much CBS may have paid Mrs. Knox to do Wednesday's interview. Her gossipy story seems to fit CBS's new focus, which is proving how "accurate" the documents are rather than if they are authentic.

However, only last week Mrs. Knox said she didn't pay much attention to Bush...now she has a definative impression that Bush's attitude reflected arrogance and that he refused Killian's order to take a flight physical. This just happens to coincide with the latest DNC attack ad that includes the song with the lyrics, ..."it aint me, it ain't me, I'm no Senator's son!"... It's another classic case of class warfare, which is a typical strategy of shallow minded liberals. That way they can shore up their main base, the gulible, the ignorant, and the poor.


53 posted on 09/16/2004 9:03:33 AM PDT by American Sovereignty Defender (I'm voting FOR Bush - before voting AGAINST Kerry)
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