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ZOT! Is Communist Revolution Possible in the USA?
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Posted on 09/15/2004 6:26:53 PM PDT by rndlpnkstn

Is Communist Revolution Possible in the USA? dissentinusa Updated: 2004-09-15 09:41

It is true that the rulers of the U.S. have a lot of military might. They have a worldwide empire and vast wealth at their command. They have slaughtered a lot of people in establishing and expanding this empire, and in turn they have built up their military might on the basis of this empire, so that today they have a large and technologically sophisticated machinery of death and destruction. And, as in the past, they will use this military might--to threaten and fight off imperialist rivals and to try to drown in blood any attempt by the oppressed people to rise up in resistance and revolution. But that gets to the fundamental point and the reason why in the end they can be defeated and overthrown.

All their military might and their economic wealth is built on exploiting and oppressing people--millions and millions of people in the U.S. itself and literally billions of people worldwide. Theirs is a system that cannot do without the fundamental division between rich and poor, and cannot do without many other major divisions and social inequalities--such as the oppression of whole nations and "minority nationalities" and the subjugation and degradation of women. And it is a system that cannot do without ruthless competition and rivalry among the exploiters themselves--within each country and between the different countries. All these things are in the very nature of their system--it is impossible to have this capitalist-imperialist system without these things. In short, this system rests on major "faultlines" that continually give rise to "earthquakes," big and small--to social upheaval, rebellion and war--that repeatedly shake the social order and awaken people to political life.

At certain points, when a number of such "social and political earthquakes" erupt with enough power and in a certain combination, then the upheaval is great enough that even in its strongest bastions, such as the U.S. itself, this system is rocked by serious crisis. Such was the case in the 1960s, and such is bound to be the case again, sooner or later. And there is a real possibility that this could come sooner: there is already an ongoing and deep-going crisis and major changes taking place in the economy and in social and political relations in the U.S. and all over the world; and, as shown very dramatically by the 1992 L.A. Rebellion, a spirit of defiance and a combative mood is growing among the basic people in the U.S., which must be heightened and developed into a conscious, organized struggle for revolution.

Our point of orientation--the orientation for the exploited and oppressed people and their revolutionary leadership--must be to gear everything we do toward preparing for the eruption of an actual revolutionary crisis, where the authority of the ruling class and both its "right" and its ability to rule are called fundamentally into question. For it is exactly in such a situation that making revolution in a country like the U.S.--actually launching a revolutionary war with the realistic prospect of carrying it forward to victory--will become a possibility and an immediate, urgent task. The development of the necessary conditions for revolution and the eruption of an actual revolutionary crisis will not mainly happen because of what we do--fundamentally it will come about because of the basic conflicts within the system itself and all the different struggles this gives rise to, all over the world--but what we do can contribute to this happening and to bringing it about faster, and most of all we can and must prepare the ground for seizing the time when the revolutionary situation and crisis do come about. And in this the exploited and oppressed people have a crucial force that was missing in the U.S. in the 1960s--a vanguard Party, the RCP, which has a firm foundation in the most advanced revolutionary ideology, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, and on that basis has developed (and is continuing to develop) the political and organizational strategies and principles, including a basic military doctrine, that are necessary to prepare for and then carry out the revolutionary overthrow of the system.

These strategies, principles, and doctrine provide the bridge between the revolutionary work and struggles of today and the all-out, military battle for power when the revolutionary situation comes into being. As I pointed out in COULD WE REALLY WIN? the work and struggle in this period, even though it is not yet warfare itself, lays the foundation, politically and organizationally, for forging a revolutionary army among the masses and waging revolutionary war when the revolutionary situation does come into being. Then it will be possible to build military organization and military fighting capacity out of the mass organization and mass struggle that has been rooted deeply and built wisely and well among the masses, especially the most exploited and oppressed masses, during the whole process of preparation for the revolutionary crisis. Then it will be possible to put into practice the military doctrine of the vanguard--to wage revolutionary war guided by that doctrine--and to further develop and apply that doctrine through continually summing up practical experience in waging the revolutionary war.

As I also pointed out in COULD WE REALLY WIN? we must keep in mind the profound principle of MLM--the great truth formulated and acted upon by Mao--that while technology is important, people not technology are decisive in warfare as in all things. All technology is created by people and is wielded by people. People who have never waged revolutionary warfare can learn to do so. The masses and their revolutionary vanguard will do this partly through studying warfare but mainly, as Mao also said, by learning warfare through waging warfare and collectively summing up their experience and drawing lessons. This is how all revolutionary wars have been waged and many have been won.

And another important point: with regard to the armed forces of U.S. imperialism, the people who wield their military technology are largely drawn from among the poor and the oppressed in society--this is especially so among their ground forces. This is a serious "built-in" contradiction within their armed forces, which will become very acute when these armed forces are called on to engage in warfare against the masses of basic people from whom they are largely drawn. In fact, one of the key features of a revolutionary crisis is that serious divisions develop within the armed forces of the ruling class, and sections of these armed forces begin to identify with the revolutionary struggles of the masses. This happened to a very significant degree in the 1960s as a result of the defeats the U.S. army was being handed in Vietnam together with the social upheaval and rebellion back in the U.S. itself. This does not mean that the revolutionary people should expect that significant parts of the U.S. armed forces will come over to the revolution right at the start of the revolutionary war--the revolutionary war should not be hinged on this or depend on this happening--but it does mean that, as the enemy armed forces are hit with revolutionary war, in the context of the overall revolutionary crisis and upheaval, their army will not hold together as one solid force but will begin to splinter, and it will be possible to win over parts of it--to integrate them into the revolutionary army and thereby strengthen that revolutionary army.

All this does not mean that it will be easy to make revolution--even in conditions of revolutionary crisis and upheaval it will not be "easy" for the revolutionary people and their vanguard to forge and to wield their own armed forces and wage revolutionary war to defeat the military might of U.S. imperialism. It will not be easy, even then --but it will be possible. And the thing all revolutionary-minded people must be about now is getting down with the vanguard to lay the most powerful basis for this--to contribute to the development of the revolutionary struggle and above all to prepare the masses as well as the vanguard for the eruption of a full-out revolutionary crisis. If we don't do this, we will miss the revolutionary opportunity whenever it comes.

To sum up and repeat: Can we really make revolution in the U.S., up against all the military might of the ruling class? Yes, we can, but there have to be big changes and we have a lot of work to do.


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To: rndlpnkstn
The liberals are so lawless already that nothing they do would surprise me. This jerk needs a one way ticket to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan if he wants to experience oppression.
61 posted on 09/15/2004 6:55:20 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: rndlpnkstn


Kerry has been associated witht he Communists for a long time, at least since his return from Vietnam.


62 posted on 09/15/2004 6:55:33 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: rndlpnkstn
Hey Troll Boy, last time a communist revolution was considered a serious threat to the United States was in the 1920's and 1930's.

For everyone who likes a good government conspiracy, find out what "War Plan White" was all about.

63 posted on 09/15/2004 6:56:06 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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To: rndlpnkstn
Can we really make revolution in the U.S., up against all the military might of the ruling class?

Sure. But you ignore two things. One there is no "Ruling class" per se. We the People rock it, We the people roll, We the people, We run the country!

As you wish to change that it is my duty and my pleasure to see you dead. In large numbers.

The second is that "We the People" have the ability to do just that. I have own a gun or two. Or three or four or five. So I will make you dead. In large numbers.

So I would not advise trying it. Unless you want to be dead. In large numbers.

Cheery-o!

64 posted on 09/15/2004 6:56:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ("Arrrg," the captain said thoughtfully. ("Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew"))
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To: rndlpnkstn
BTW, the post is from the China Daily. Follow the link, and see for yourself. China is exporting "revolution" to the USA, just like it always has. And yes, many in the USA who pass China's social anarchy (breeds Communist revolution) designs for weakening our country to people here are, in fact, Democrats. But there are others, too.

An excerpt from Mao's Little Red Book on Women
65 posted on 09/15/2004 6:56:59 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: rndlpnkstn
To sum up and repeat: Can we really make revolution in the U.S., up against all the military might of the ruling class? Yes, we can, but there have to be big changes and we have a lot of work to do.

And voting Democrat is a good start.

66 posted on 09/15/2004 6:57:03 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Defeat Kucinich! www.edhermanforcongress.com)
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To: rndlpnkstn; All
For it is exactly in such a situation that making revolution in a country like the U.S.--actually launching a revolutionary war with the realistic prospect of carrying it forward to victory--will become a possibility and an immediate, urgent task.

These strategies, principles, and doctrine provide the bridge between the revolutionary work and struggles of today and the all-out, military battle for power when the revolutionary situation comes into being.

O lord, I SWEAR I will not laugh out loud when taking prisoners or try to collect more than 20 - 30 Ak's

As I pointed out in COULD WE REALLY WIN?

To sum up and repeat: Can we really make revolution in the U.S., up against all the military might of the ruling class? Yes, we can, but there have to be big changes and we have a lot of work to do.

Please please please please please please pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease let them believe this is true BEFORE the tendinitis in my heel gets worse. I promise I will share my souvenirs and will only claim one red star flag for the den.


67 posted on 09/15/2004 6:57:22 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: rndlpnkstn

Notice how this manifesto keeps referencing the 60's.


68 posted on 09/15/2004 6:57:24 PM PDT by JPJones ("We'll cross all our tee's and dot all our.....lower case j's")
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Question: "ZOT! Is Communist Revolution Possible in the USA?"

Answer: No.

69 posted on 09/15/2004 6:57:33 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: rndlpnkstn

I am sure the dimwit who wrote this has never been outside of China in his life. I have met many Chinese in that country, even intelligent and educated ones, who have a very strange understanding of the outside world because they have never left the country and don't know anyone else who has.


70 posted on 09/15/2004 6:58:27 PM PDT by rimmont
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To: BobKrumm; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; ...

It is getting real PING


71 posted on 09/15/2004 7:00:24 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
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The second is that "We the People" have the ability to do just that. I have own a gun or two. Or three or four or five. So I will make you dead. In large numbers.
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The second is that "We the People" have the ability to do just that. I have own a gun or two. Or three or four or five. So I will make you dead. In large numbers.
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Yay! It is the "military might" of the middle or working class violent revolutionaries should fear the most.
Gun Control anyone?
72 posted on 09/15/2004 7:02:40 PM PDT by MagnumRancid (I need a new screen name - its left over from my Doom/Quake playing days.)
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To: rndlpnkstn
Put your nose under this...

...and accept your fate!

Squashed like a cockroach!

73 posted on 09/15/2004 7:03:11 PM PDT by NewLand (Stop watching ALL network TV if you want to STOP liberals.)
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To: rndlpnkstn

LA Rebellion? Why can't you just call it what it was ... childish lawlessness!


74 posted on 09/15/2004 7:03:17 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: rndlpnkstn

As I read this, I couldn't tell if it was a DNC press release or a term paper from a grad student in Poli-Sci at Berkeley ... then I saw it's just more insane wishful thinking from the commies.


75 posted on 09/15/2004 7:03:36 PM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: rndlpnkstn
"They have a worldwide empire and vast wealth at their command

Yesssss, and we shall conquer YOU soon enough...muahahahaha!

76 posted on 09/15/2004 7:05:55 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: rndlpnkstn

A sleeper agent?


77 posted on 09/15/2004 7:06:01 PM PDT by capitan_refugio (DUmmies - Do Not Apply)
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To: rndlpnkstn

"To sum up and repeat: Can we really make revolution in the U.S., up against all the military might of the ruling class? Yes, we can, **but there have to be big changes and we have a lot of work to do**."

LOL! I'll SAY!


78 posted on 09/15/2004 7:07:50 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: rndlpnkstn
As I also pointed out in COULD WE REALLY WIN?

Pack a lunch boy; about 70 million snipers and I will be waiting for you.

79 posted on 09/15/2004 7:10:23 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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80 posted on 09/15/2004 7:11:49 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (CBS ~ All The News That's Fit to Fake.)
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