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Maybe this is just one step in the legal process, and not just one step towards an income tax.
1 posted on 09/15/2004 2:18:45 PM PDT by Redbob
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2 posted on 09/15/2004 2:20:49 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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a judge rules.... just like new york.


3 posted on 09/15/2004 2:21:07 PM PDT by printhead
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Hmm, there's a lot of this going around. Judges are taking over the school funding issue all over the place. Who needs legislatures?


4 posted on 09/15/2004 2:21:52 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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Maybe this is just one step in the legal process, and not just one step towards an income tax.

They are doing this in many states, including my own. Its a total court takeover of the education system allowing the judicial branch to raise taxes instead of the legislative.
6 posted on 09/15/2004 2:23:39 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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If they shut down the Texas public school system for good, that would be a huge step forwards.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 2:24:54 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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the state must stop funding education within a year

Sounds good to me.

10 posted on 09/15/2004 2:25:19 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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Maybe this is just one step in the legal process, and not just one step towards an income tax.

No, it's one more step toward Robin Hood - take from the districts with real taxpayers and give to the districts without.

11 posted on 09/15/2004 2:25:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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Just so all Freepers know, this is a state judge ruling on STATE Constitutional issues. It is NOT about the federal Constitution. Also, the State Constitution is generally amended about two or three times a year. This is an ongoing battle in Texas. If the legislature gets tired of playing this game, all they have to do is pass a state constitutional amendment during the next legislative session and get it on the ballot. There are NO, I repeat NO ramifications to any other state.


16 posted on 09/15/2004 2:28:19 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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Something tells me that everyone knew exactly how the judge was going to rule before the trial ever started. That is why the suit was brought under his jurisdiction. The greedy school districts went judge shopping. And seeing how he ruled almost instantly once closing arguments were over said his mind was made up a long time ago.

Expect the case to end up before the Texas Supreme Court which thankfully has more conservatives on it.

18 posted on 09/15/2004 2:30:38 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Hannity Was Right, FReepers Tend To Eat Their Own)
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Read EVERY state's activist judge rulings on these "equitable" rulings ... you will find IDENTICAL wording in each and every one.

This is what happens when there is a REVOLUTIONARY COUP d' ETAT in process but this time with the LAWYER scum, ACTIVIST JUDGES and socialist/communist POLITICIANS!

The next ruling will be declaring their "MASTERS" over the state's educational system. Don't believe me? Look it all up and you sill find the identical wording and methods for each and every case.

Only those states with BRAVE patriots who hold these criminals at bay by holding them open to scrutiny still have semi-republican government.





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20 posted on 09/15/2004 2:31:16 PM PDT by steplock
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Dietz said he would issue an injunction ordering state funds for public education to cease within a year if the Legislature does not find an adequate solution.

KEWL ... the judge just handed the counties and municipalities the PERFECT weapon to kill Robin Hood.

21 posted on 09/15/2004 2:32:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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You have to understand that a lawsuit against the State of Texas in State court must be brought in Austin. Austin is very liberal so Austin judges are very liberal. The Austin Court of Appeals is liberal. The Texas Supreme Court is conservative, but it is a court of law, not of facts. That means that, unlike the US Supreme Court, it cannot decide cases based on what the evidence was, only on if the the proper legal standard was applied. So this BS ruling may stand.
22 posted on 09/15/2004 2:34:42 PM PDT by Pilsner
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Oh great, another Judge trying to take control of a state government. The judicial branch of this country is totally out of control. They forget that in Texas they are elected not selected. Let's vote him out next time he runs. I like that phrase " equal " that means that all of the schools will now be substandard. Of course you know that this is a stealth method of forcing an income tax on the people of Texas. They've been trying for years to get an income tax passed. What you can't do through the ballot box you do through the courts. He's totally over-reaching. I say ignore his injunction. Judges including politicians should be accountable to the people not the other way around.


23 posted on 09/15/2004 2:37:28 PM PDT by Yankereb
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There is a nationwide movement by the teacher's unions to demand that each state within its various districts pay the highest dollar to the lowest attended school regardless of the district's ability to pay; this means the lowest common denominator will rachet up spending throughout the state as the lowest performing schools must pay premium salaries to keep minimally certified teachers and moving to the suburbs or the outlying district wiil eventually lead back to busing as the state goes bankrupt trying to pay these court-ordered demands.


25 posted on 09/15/2004 2:38:31 PM PDT by Old Professer (The world awaits the day when the ranks of the unemployed are all retired warriors.)
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Oh great, another Judge trying to take control of a state government. The judicial branch of this country is totally out of control. They forget that in Texas they are elected not selected. Let's vote him out next time he runs. I like that phrase " equal " that means that all of the schools will now be substandard. Of course you know that this is a stealth method of forcing an income tax on the people of Texas. They've been trying for years to get an income tax passed. What you can't do through the ballot box you do through the courts. He's totally over-reaching. I say ignore his injunction. Judges including politicians should be accountable to the people not the other way around.


27 posted on 09/15/2004 2:42:36 PM PDT by Yankereb
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Solution: A 100% voucher system.


28 posted on 09/15/2004 2:43:28 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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the libs in academia and law are gunning for y'all in states that don't have an income tax and lure employers away from Taxachussets and Rendells-vania. (look out Florida...you're next!)


31 posted on 09/15/2004 2:49:11 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Great news. Thanks for posting it. We can now get rid of school tax on real property and put it on additional state tax. If I had my way we make full gambling legal and let it found our schools who for the most waste it any way.


33 posted on 09/15/2004 3:01:52 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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Time to ask for a refund from my local school district.


42 posted on 09/15/2004 3:24:06 PM PDT by Lockbox
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They're called Independent School Districts (ISDs) but the legislature has set it up so that they are totally controlled by Austin. Now maybe the school taxes will stay in the districts where they are raised and not be filtered through Austin and divied-up at political whim. And maybe just maybe the districts will be truly independent and the voters will actually regain control.
49 posted on 09/15/2004 3:33:01 PM PDT by fella
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