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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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To: anyone

yaknow. i see the over reaction here on this thread and wonder what the heck is going on?? i mean, is it any stretch of the imagination that a navy seal would be sickened if he were falsely told that dubya didn't live up to his obligation?? this is america correct. i say it's wrong to attempt to attack this man for his opinion. that puts us no better than the liberal idiots who attack anyone right of karl marx as right wing fanatics. i believe we should accept his opinion and move on, after all, he is only one man.


81 posted on 09/13/2004 2:05:27 PM PDT by lonster
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To: siunevada

NO KIDDING! Sheesh! When I was in Journalism, ANY sort of biased report would get you SLAMMED with an F. Period. RED MARKS all OVER the place. I cannot believe that the creed I was taught in school has been completely FLUSHed down the toilet.


82 posted on 09/13/2004 2:05:41 PM PDT by Hi Heels
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To: RS
He might have taken those special channeling course that john edwards has used to speak to his dead clients???
83 posted on 09/13/2004 2:06:25 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: ambrose
"The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

As far as I know, I’m the only freeper who spoke with Ahmad . There was absolutely no friction between us, certainly nothing would be characterized as “nasty”.

(Of course it was an AP reporter that said news of Clinton’s illness was boo’ed at a Bush rally. So why should they be believed now.)

The reporter is right in one respect; the guy does come off as having a “peace about his voice”. He seemed like a very nice old guy with an easy going humor about him. Of course there are all kinds of people with a very peaceful voice. You can’t base a conclusion on just that.

Here’s my report .

84 posted on 09/13/2004 2:06:58 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: ambrose

ROTF!!! The Dem's are desperate, wonder what ship they're gonna jump off of next!



Cheers!


85 posted on 09/13/2004 2:07:24 PM PDT by SmellsLikeOwen
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To: Mamzelle
How many 30-yr vets have kids at home young enough to homeschool?

Yep, I caught that too.

86 posted on 09/13/2004 2:07:37 PM PDT by AndrewC (I also think that Carthage should be destroyed. - Cato)
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To: ambrose
The view from Dan Rather and AP


87 posted on 09/13/2004 2:08:52 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Send comments to: P.O. Box 123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ)
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To: Mamzelle
Probably not this Ahmad since he shows service from 1963 through 1966 (3 years)

Ahmad Majied
2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574
MACM 1963-66 ref
88 posted on 09/13/2004 2:10:33 PM PDT by rit
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To: siunevada

yeah... notice the Zellerism in there to give himself some credibility.


89 posted on 09/13/2004 2:10:39 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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To: Hank All-American

I'm with you.


90 posted on 09/13/2004 2:11:01 PM PDT by sport
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To: ambrose
"...he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue. "

In other words, he's been busted and he's clamming up.

91 posted on 09/13/2004 2:11:31 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: AndrewC

took him that long to get some.


92 posted on 09/13/2004 2:11:57 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee
An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

Facts be damned, they've got an election to win!

93 posted on 09/13/2004 2:12:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: ambrose

They're actually interviewing converts to Islam for comments re: GWB? Good grief!


94 posted on 09/13/2004 2:12:16 PM PDT by ShandaLear (Rather lied, CBS News died.)
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To: ambrose

And an AuthentiSEAL reply was posted by Travis here, yesterday. ...something I did not find earlier today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214014/posts


95 posted on 09/13/2004 2:12:16 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

I wonder if he has a hole in the trunk of his car like another mooselimb convert in the news recently.

96 posted on 09/13/2004 2:12:32 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer (Less carrot, more STICK!)
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To: annyokie

Oh, that's right, what's with my brain today? How could I forget that we're also oppressive and intolerant?


97 posted on 09/13/2004 2:13:16 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter." Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

Good Lord. Minor probably thinks that Osama bin Ladin has a kind face too.

Hey you people who call yourselves "journalists", be prepared to search, question and verify what you write or you WILL be called to account for it and if found lacking, laughed straight out of print.

Americans deserve and demand MUCH better than what we've been getting. And one way or another, we WILL find the truth. Count on that.

Prairie

98 posted on 09/13/2004 2:14:39 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (sKerry is a sKunk!!)
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To: Arkinsaw

>>These people are no better than Weekly World News.

Actually, this is considerably worse than WWN. No one expects accurate "reporting" from WWN.


99 posted on 09/13/2004 2:15:24 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: rolling_stone

I checked. The Superior Court handles name changes. No online database that I could find. Not for name changes.

Any Albany freepers out there?


100 posted on 09/13/2004 2:15:42 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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