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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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To: dead

The gullible AP reporter was probably six years old when the great John D. MacDonald died in the mid 1980s.


41 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ambrose
So, find out his real name and check it out. Minor doesn't even have to publish the other name, but he ought to document .

"Awwww. He's such a swell guy" is not a checked fact. Why should Minor's idea of a sweet feller have any relevance here?

42 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:11 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: ambrose

Yep. More examples of lazy journalism.


43 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:19 PM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the semi-naked blogger Political Operative Brigade. To H#ll with pajamas!)
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To: ambrose

bmp


44 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:33 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: ambrose

No doubt the not-yet-sworn-in President Nixon secretly ordered this guy to go into Cambodia on Christmas of 1968 along with John Kerry.


45 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:41 PM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker game.)
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To: ambrose; Jim Robinson

Free Republic is kicking ass! Jim you're a legend!!


46 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:48 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee; Java Guy; lavender; truthtracker
GREAT ging TM!

Freepers fact checking the left!

47 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:52 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: ambrose
The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. ? There's a peace about his voice."

In other words, his information came from a phone interview with a guy that wouldn't even devulge his real name.

Is there no bottom to the MSM fishin' hole?

48 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:59 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ambrose

BTW, wouldn't there be a public record of this name change?

It would be worth digging around if so and it is possible.


49 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:19 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swallow leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee

If this reporter cannot come up with the original name of the Navy Seal, then he is just another liar. Reporters assume immunity from what they print. He should do some investigative reporting and prove his story. All he has done is convinced me he is untruthful, sloppy and gullable.


50 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: ambrose

NYT, AP, CBS, who's next?


51 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:31 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: ambrose

I wish they had mentioned that this fella is also a Muslim Imam....

I can't find it now but there was a link on the thread yesterday to an Albany mosque or Albany Muslim center that had him listed.


52 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:43 PM PDT by Tamzee (Free Republic .... Partisan Pajama People)
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To: Hank All-American
Maybe if you can get him to agree...someone can get some finger prints then we can find out who the clown really is. What a big man to make accusations, but not post his given name. I wonder if he is raising mini jihadist? (sp)
53 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:45 PM PDT by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; SAMWolf; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; mhking; Jim Robinson
WTG Travis!
54 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:46 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ambrose
Majied, a Democrat

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

I guess that's all the AP reporter needed to verify this guy's story. He undoubtedly trusted Clinton too.

55 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:56 PM PDT by eggman
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To: Travis McGee

We have Albany, Ga. Maybe we can find out more. How many 30-yr vets have kids at home young enough to homeschool? This guy started poppin' 'em out late, or he married a really young gal in hijab.


56 posted on 09/13/2004 1:57:09 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: cricket

Apparently, journalists have no capacity for learning from the mistakes of each other...perhaps that ability was purged from them in college.


57 posted on 09/13/2004 1:57:22 PM PDT by Packer Pete
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To: rolling_stone
time to check court records for a name change..

My guess is that you're going to have to go back to the late 60s/early 70s before you find any information about a name change. Newspaper searches suggest that this dude had the same name since about 1975 or so.

There are not too many Ahmad Majieds in this World.

I am sure Authentiseal will get to the bottom of this, if for anything the honor of the SEALS, which is more at issue than Majied's comments to begin with.

58 posted on 09/13/2004 1:57:25 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: Yardstick; Travis McGee
Wow, lots of Freepers being cited recently.

I sent the original thread to AP and asked them if they heard America laughing at them. Others probably did the same.

Their defense as reported here only compounds their foolishness. Where do they find these scribblers?

59 posted on 09/13/2004 1:57:36 PM PDT by RJL
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To: TexasGreg

Ofcourse, that fact would not have surfaced had not a Freeper 'outed' the AP reporter!
Makes the story DOA!


60 posted on 09/13/2004 1:58:13 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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