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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Will you be notifying AuthentiSeal?

Thanks for the work in verifying this. I knew from the get go that the story was false. Just by one of his answers to elfman2 - SEAL school -- no such thing -- and all he had to do was give his class number -- that is something that is unclassifed and something a SEAL never forgets. Just ask my son!


301 posted on 09/14/2004 1:47:30 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: twigs

This is not new either. As long ago as the late sixties the Black Panther Party was also "home" schooling.

It will now be adopted by the Islamofascists to turn out a new generation of America haters.

Part of the positive aspects of public schools is an ability to generate a social feeling for the society as a whole and, far too often, homeschooling does not do that and cannot do that since its rational is based primarily upon a contempt for the larger world. It will always be such.


302 posted on 09/14/2004 1:49:34 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: siunevada

No kidding. Investigative journalism? What's that? Apparently, believing someone's a straight shooter is just as good as having DOCUMENTED PROOF THAT THE GUY IS WHAT HE SAYS HE IS! My God, man. If people on the internet can find these things out so easily, so how is it that AP reporters can't seem to be bothered to investigate things, when they've got the resources of a major news organization behind them? Does ANYONE work for a living at the AP? Maybe I ought to apply for a job, there. Looks like an easy paycheck, considering that the people at the AP don't actually expect their reporters to WORK for a living!


303 posted on 09/14/2004 1:50:55 PM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: Green Knight

This is like a singles bar where some looser says he is reaaaaaly a spy.

(who was that car salesman who pretended to be a spy to get women in true lies?)


304 posted on 09/14/2004 1:55:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
That was Bill Paxton. He was hilarious in that movie.

And yeah, the dimbulb reporter who filed that story would've probably fallen for his spy act, too. But then again, taking people at their word is a MUCH easier thing to do then to actually get off your ass and do some INVESTIGATING!
305 posted on 09/14/2004 1:58:03 PM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: Hank All-American

C'mon now, you know as well as I do that dude isn't a SEAL. You just want to beat his ass just for the sake of beating his his ass. Well, get in line. We'll just have to let dirtboy and the rest of the articulate class on FR have their turn first.


306 posted on 09/14/2004 2:48:24 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Ajnin

Okay. Busted.


307 posted on 09/14/2004 2:56:37 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

I have passed these threads to Larry Bailey, a REAL VN SEAL, who is the head of VN Veterans For Truth. He's worked with Mr. Burchett, the author of Stolen Valor, on outing fake SEALs and other fake specops and hero types. He's "taking it for action."


308 posted on 09/14/2004 3:36:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: ambrose
Yeah, that five years really stands out. I reminds me of Brian Dennehy's "Five-year tour in Vietnam with the Marines."
309 posted on 09/14/2004 4:34:31 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: ambrose
Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

For the record: homeschooling parents are really upstanding people, according to AP.

310 posted on 09/14/2004 4:51:02 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Will you be notifying AuthentiSeal?

Not necessary. It was Greg at AuthentiSeal that notified me!

I think I am going to make a financial contribution to Authentiseal and to Veriseal also, to help- support the good work they do.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

311 posted on 09/14/2004 7:05:12 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Hey phonies! Orca's out there, and he knows a wannabee in a wetsuit tastes better than a SEAL....)
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To: Hank All-American

LOL


312 posted on 09/14/2004 10:27:19 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

This is the only one I could find that seemed related. He's recently signed up on what seems to be a SEAL 'alumni' newsletter (not at all coincidentally, I'm sure):

Majied, Ahmad, 2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574

I think this is his phone #229-431-1144, and then there's this info:

MACM 1963-66

Freeper service lingo interpreters?

Note: I have no idea if this is the same guy...but then, his name is Ahmad Majied.


313 posted on 09/15/2004 7:00:41 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: ambrose; Travis McGee; Rush Limbaugh

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Associated Press must return its bogus -NO GUN RI- PULITZER

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=509



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / U.S. 7th Cavalry in Vietnam

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm (Photos)

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314 posted on 09/15/2004 12:19:49 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

BTTT!


315 posted on 09/15/2004 3:18:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
BTTT!

Looks like it's time to start going through some earlier AP stories from Elliott Minor looking for fakery in them....

316 posted on 09/16/2004 12:04:22 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: LibertarianInExile
This is the only one I could find that seemed related. He's recently signed up on what seems to be a SEAL 'alumni' newsletter (not at all coincidentally, I'm sure):

Majied, Ahmad, 2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574

I think this is his phone #229-431-1144, and then there's this info:

MACM 1963-66

Freeper service lingo interpreters?

Note: I have no idea if this is the same guy...but then, his name is Ahmad Majied.

Hey, it'd be enough *evidence* for CBS News/ 60 Minutes!

An MACM is the Navy rate [rank/grade/job] for a Master Chief Petty Officer, [NCO paygrade E-9] equivalent to an Army Command Sergeant Major, as I recall. I wasn't in the Navy and wasn't a swabbie, but I played one as a Dep't of the Navy civilian employee for a couple of years in the early 1980s.

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

317 posted on 09/16/2004 12:18:45 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: siunevada

"Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

Good Grief! All the current crop of journalists need to be fired! Mrs PD


318 posted on 09/16/2004 12:25:34 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Grampa Dave

Outstanding. Emergent Intel BUMP.


319 posted on 09/16/2004 12:40:09 PM PDT by LTCJ (CBS, all your Boyd Cycles are belong to us.)
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To: LeanWrite; Travis McGee; LTCJ

Thanks the real credit goes to Travis for the exposure and to LeanWrite for the phone call documenting the lie.


320 posted on 09/16/2004 12:43:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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