Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose
about anti-Bush SEAL
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Monday, September 13, 2004
ELECTION 2004 Posted: September 13, 2004 4:06 p.m. Eastern
By Ron Strom An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.
The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.
In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:
Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.
After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.
McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.
"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.
"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."
In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."
Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."
The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. There's a peace about his voice."
Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.
The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.
"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.
Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.
He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. I just really think a lot of him."
Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.
Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.
Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.
Related stories:
Bush Guard papers forged, says source
Rather backs docs on Evening News
Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush
CBS News denies Bush docs forged
Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com. |
Will you be notifying AuthentiSeal?
Thanks for the work in verifying this. I knew from the get go that the story was false. Just by one of his answers to elfman2 - SEAL school -- no such thing -- and all he had to do was give his class number -- that is something that is unclassifed and something a SEAL never forgets. Just ask my son!
This is not new either. As long ago as the late sixties the Black Panther Party was also "home" schooling.
It will now be adopted by the Islamofascists to turn out a new generation of America haters.
Part of the positive aspects of public schools is an ability to generate a social feeling for the society as a whole and, far too often, homeschooling does not do that and cannot do that since its rational is based primarily upon a contempt for the larger world. It will always be such.
No kidding. Investigative journalism? What's that? Apparently, believing someone's a straight shooter is just as good as having DOCUMENTED PROOF THAT THE GUY IS WHAT HE SAYS HE IS! My God, man. If people on the internet can find these things out so easily, so how is it that AP reporters can't seem to be bothered to investigate things, when they've got the resources of a major news organization behind them? Does ANYONE work for a living at the AP? Maybe I ought to apply for a job, there. Looks like an easy paycheck, considering that the people at the AP don't actually expect their reporters to WORK for a living!
This is like a singles bar where some looser says he is reaaaaaly a spy.
(who was that car salesman who pretended to be a spy to get women in true lies?)
C'mon now, you know as well as I do that dude isn't a SEAL. You just want to beat his ass just for the sake of beating his his ass. Well, get in line. We'll just have to let dirtboy and the rest of the articulate class on FR have their turn first.
Okay. Busted.
I have passed these threads to Larry Bailey, a REAL VN SEAL, who is the head of VN Veterans For Truth. He's worked with Mr. Burchett, the author of Stolen Valor, on outing fake SEALs and other fake specops and hero types. He's "taking it for action."
For the record: homeschooling parents are really upstanding people, according to AP.
Not necessary. It was Greg at AuthentiSeal that notified me!
I think I am going to make a financial contribution to Authentiseal and to Veriseal also, to help- support the good work they do.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
LOL
This is the only one I could find that seemed related. He's recently signed up on what seems to be a SEAL 'alumni' newsletter (not at all coincidentally, I'm sure):
Majied, Ahmad, 2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574
I think this is his phone #229-431-1144, and then there's this info:
MACM 1963-66
Freeper service lingo interpreters?
Note: I have no idea if this is the same guy...but then, his name is Ahmad Majied.
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Associated Press must return its bogus -NO GUN RI- PULITZER
http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=509
Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / U.S. 7th Cavalry in Vietnam
http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm (Photos)
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BTTT!
Looks like it's time to start going through some earlier AP stories from Elliott Minor looking for fakery in them....
Majied, Ahmad, 2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574
I think this is his phone #229-431-1144, and then there's this info:
MACM 1963-66
Freeper service lingo interpreters?
Note: I have no idea if this is the same guy...but then, his name is Ahmad Majied.
Hey, it'd be enough *evidence* for CBS News/ 60 Minutes!
An MACM is the Navy rate [rank/grade/job] for a Master Chief Petty Officer, [NCO paygrade E-9] equivalent to an Army Command Sergeant Major, as I recall. I wasn't in the Navy and wasn't a swabbie, but I played one as a Dep't of the Navy civilian employee for a couple of years in the early 1980s.
Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.
Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.
"Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."
Good Grief! All the current crop of journalists need to be fired! Mrs PD
Outstanding. Emergent Intel BUMP.
Thanks the real credit goes to Travis for the exposure and to LeanWrite for the phone call documenting the lie.
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