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HODGES SAID HE WAS MISLED BY CBS
Noted Now - ABC News The Note ^ | 09/11/04 | ABC News The Note

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:42:49 PM PDT by Ed Zoekuiper

Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Grd, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were "handwritten" and after CBS read him excerpts he said, "well if he wrote them that's what he felt."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbsnews; deceit; hoax; hodges; killian; lurchrathered; mediabias; morelies; napalminthemorning; ratherbiased; rathergate; selectricgate; tang
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To: alnick
That Dan Rather thought he could get away with this suggests, to me anyway, that he's been getting away with similar lies for years, and having gotten away with it, has become more and more brazen and careless.

And nothing will come of this. I will be surprised if anybody is fired, or anyone gets in trouble .

221 posted on 09/10/2004 8:20:40 PM PDT by timestax
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To: hole_n_one; A Citizen Reporter; PhiKapMom; Howlin
I just got home about an hour ago. My oh my!!!

This is excellent. We also have the other networks consulting their own experts, according to what I have read.

Well, of all days for me to be busy with other things! I am going to be up late simply trying to catch up!

222 posted on 09/10/2004 8:20:55 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: I'm ALL Right!
The network said that a CBS reporter read the documents to Hodges over the phone, (telling him they were hand-written) and that Hodges replied that "these are the things that Killian had expressed to me at the time."

Very good catch!

223 posted on 09/10/2004 8:21:46 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: FlashBack

heres how, <img src="http insert addy to where the pic is stored"
just make sure you close the tag though!and dont leave spaces.


224 posted on 09/10/2004 8:22:13 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isn't disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: Peach

Rather may end up in the loony bin within the next 7 days. He's falling apart. This stunt tonight was the dumbest thing he could possibly have done. He is either intentionally lying the whole way through, or he believes it, in which case he is insane, and the pressure of the contrary truth coming at him from every where will cause him to have a nervous breakdown.

Mwuhahahahahahaha!!! Mwuhahahahahah!! Mwuhahahahahah!!!!!


225 posted on 09/10/2004 8:22:14 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: cookcounty

WOW! No kidding! Some of the pilots from Bush's National Guard station WERE FLYING in Vietnam? Is that what this means?


226 posted on 09/10/2004 8:22:25 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Ed Zoekuiper

227 posted on 09/10/2004 8:22:33 PM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: All

bump


228 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:16 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: tioga
How long do you think danrather can keep this hoax going? He sounded a little strained tonight, think he'll crash?

The problem for Rather, other than his bias and lack of credibilty, is that he and CBS are now the butt of jokes and ridicule, which is no laughing matter to the suits. Rather has got to be feeling the heat over this. I wouldn't be surprised to see a reorganization in the near future that gives Rather a new "assignment".

229 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:28 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Loyal Buckeye

MAJOR GENERAL PAUL H. HODGES




Retired July 1, 1987.

Major General Paul H. Hodges is director of the Inter-American Defense College, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington D.C.

General Hodges was born in 1930, in Washington, D.C. He graduated from Lowell High School in San Francisco and then attended Oberlin (Ohio) College until the outbreak of the Korean War. He enrolled in the aviation cadet program and received his commission as a second lieutenant in December 1952. General Hodges resumed his academic studies while on active duty and received a bachelor of arts degree in history from the University of Omaha in 1966. He graduated from the Air War College in 1971.



Entire article is at link below:






http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=5818


230 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:55 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: airborne
That might explain the handwriting expert IF Rather is setting us up. But why type a document to look like the real thing if the original is handwritten?

Because the "original" handwritten document is ALSO a forgery; by replicating it on a WP and letting everyone wail away at it as a "forgery" for a week, they can say "well, the original is really hard to read -- it's 30 years old and has been copied many times -- so someone replicated it to make it easier to read, but we've seen the handwritten copies." And then they'll announce that the "forgery" issue has been refuted, and act like the documents are valid.

Notice the wording of Rather's remarks tonite: "people are focussing on the documents instead of what they say..." I smell a sneaky trick about to be sprung, and this explains why Rather isn't backing down. They are going to proclaim the originals WERE handwritten, and that all this internet frenzy about "forgeries" is "much ado about nothing".....

It also explains why they had a handwriting analyst instead of a document analyst as an expert, and why they only showed him examining the signature.....

The "bait and switch" is about to be played on us....

231 posted on 09/10/2004 8:23:59 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Republic

CBS will not fire Dan Rather, either out of cowardice or obstinacy.

But if the cries for someone's head get too loud, especially from advertisers, Mary Mapes' head will be the one that rolls.


232 posted on 09/10/2004 8:24:30 PM PDT by Loyalist (This tagline uses IBM Selectric kerning!)
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To: Miss Marple

It's been an incredible evening. And I wouldn't know where to tell you to begin. I can't even keep up and I've been here all night, LOL!


233 posted on 09/10/2004 8:24:31 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: All
How about noshing another delicious tidbit in CBS hell.
234 posted on 09/10/2004 8:24:53 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: Miss Marple

Good Luck in catching up -- I was here most of the day instead of doing what I had intended and I have had trouble keeping up. I read a thread and before I know it, I am a 100 posts behind and I am a fast reader!

This one here is one of the best -- they didn't tell Hodges they were typed -- doesn't get any better than that!


235 posted on 09/10/2004 8:24:58 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: Starboard

I said last night that the next Rather assignment will be on the beach covering IVAN


236 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:11 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: altura

ABC and the other MSM smell blood in the water and are going after CBS...they are fighting over the same shrinking pool of viewers/readers. This has little to do with credibility (they have none) and more to do with plunging the dagger deeper to a competitor.


237 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:17 PM PDT by OMrGrant
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To: Petronski

"Rather reported tonight that the network's document consultant "believes they are real, but is concerned about exactly what is being examined by some of the people now questioning the documents, because deterioration occurs each time a document is reproduced, and the documents being analyzed outside of CBS have been photocopied, faxed, scanned, and downloaded, and are far removed from the documents CBS started with, which were also photocopies."

I love it...they certainly can't come back now and say that the documents were handwritten

Would somebody please call the coroner, Mr. Rather is dead.


238 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:34 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Buckhead
Rather may end up in the loony bin within the next 7 days. He's falling apart.

WRONG..Rather is prolly loving all the attention...those Socialist/Liberals?DemoncRATS just LOVE getting attention, any attention.

239 posted on 09/10/2004 8:26:59 PM PDT by timestax
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To: longshadow

He can't do that since he based his entire rebuttal on the fact that typewriters of the era had the features being questioned.


240 posted on 09/10/2004 8:27:01 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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