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1 posted on 09/10/2004 5:59:46 PM PDT by awakeandaware
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To: awakeandaware

"Maybe they don't care if the little people..."

As one of the little people, where ever I go, I'm going to say, "Kerry forged those documents against the President. There's no way I'm going to vote for THAT crook." If Dan Rather can't be bothered by troublesome details, I won't bother with them either.


25 posted on 09/10/2004 6:06:48 PM PDT by Socratic (What's the forgery Kenneth?)
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To: awakeandaware

Buh bye.


26 posted on 09/10/2004 6:07:04 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: awakeandaware

Kerry who? All I am hearing about is BUSH on the news. Lies about Bush is better than BS by Kerry.


29 posted on 09/10/2004 6:08:19 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: awakeandaware

Um, how does all this attention to the forged documents shift the focus to President Bush's military records? I agree that CBS was working with the Kerry campaign to use a lie to disparage the President. But the current focus on the forgery points the look of impropriety at the Kerry campaign, because CBS is unabashedly supportive of Kerry. And that means that there's less time to scrutinize the President.


30 posted on 09/10/2004 6:08:36 PM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: awakeandaware

CBS intended to shift focus, but they didn't intend for a libel civil suit.

This story has grown to be more about the veracity and credibility of CBS producers than about Bush.

The CBS Producer who talked to Killian's son attended the DNC convention.

go figure.


31 posted on 09/10/2004 6:10:11 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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To: awakeandaware
Yes.

I think they're very surprised that this backfired on them.

Comparing this issue to the Swift Boat charges is interesting.
The Swift Boat charges "stuck" despite any doubts of the particularities of the evidence, but these charges don't and so the story is the doubts of the evidence.

They both broke exactly opposite to how the media expected- wanted- them to.

34 posted on 09/10/2004 6:11:42 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: awakeandaware

Whaddaryamope? Only a dope would buy into such a mess as this to blow up in his face. Divert this.


35 posted on 09/10/2004 6:11:54 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Woof if you love America!)
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To: awakeandaware

Could well be.

But I'm praying that the populace will grow exceedingly incensed with the extreme pettiness of SKERRY'S camp and painfully aware of SKERRY'S own

MUCH MORE SERIOUS OFFENSES AND OF HIS TREASONS.

Prayer does change things.


36 posted on 09/10/2004 6:12:07 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: awakeandaware
Could the Rather Memogate be a planned diversion?

No. The memos were designed as a diversion. The controversy of the forged memos was not.
40 posted on 09/10/2004 6:14:15 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: awakeandaware
I'm just wondering if CBS is just trying to help Kerry change the focus to Bush's records instead of Kerry's.

You are very astute.

The RAT leaders admitted that "August was a terrible month" for the Kerry team.

Why? The Swift Boat Vets put them on the DEFENSIVE!.

This Rather memo thing is a diversion. And it worked. How much about the Swift Boat Vets have you heard in the last few days? The Kerry camp is trying to turn the tables. They will do anything to do that. They want Bush on the defensive like Kerry was on the defensive for the entire month of August.

The Bush-Cheney team needs to keep pressing the attacks. Cheney made a BIG mistake for backing off the comment about danger increasing if Kerry is elected.

Unless we put and keep Kerry on the defensive, the slight Bush lead will erode again.

It is attack ads that work, not Mr. Nice Guy ads. Right now, Bush is on the defensive, even if the memo is a forgery. Bush MUST take to the offensive again. Hannity and Rush must start exposing Kerry as a fraud, NOT keep defending Bush from this forged memo.

42 posted on 09/10/2004 6:16:13 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: awakeandaware
just wondering if CBS is just trying to help Kerry change the focus

Sure would expect all kinds of momentum shifting tricks as the election comes closer. But Rather looked like he was about to break a tooth off when he said the word "INTERNET" tonight. So he was probably really mad. And his voice sounded like he either was yelling a lot today or either smoked a few packs of non-filters.

43 posted on 09/10/2004 6:16:16 PM PDT by alrea (Somebody get Kerry some air. His face is sagging today.)
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To: awakeandaware

This is September 10th, 2004 in the USA...how come it shows you becoming a member September 11th, 2004? Where are you??? And if you don't answer...we'll definitely know something strange with you!!!


44 posted on 09/10/2004 6:16:23 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: awakeandaware

Look son,
You show up on this site today with a sorry attempt at re-arranging the chairs on the Kerry Titanic after the Rather debacle..
Here's the news... Buddy..there is a big hole on the side of kerry's boat and he is "frigging" sinking. As a rat it is OK for the bail out but "I guarantee!" he is done..
Bye-Bye.


45 posted on 09/10/2004 6:16:53 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: awakeandaware

Of course it's a planned diversion. It wasn't planned by CBS though, they were merely accomplises in it. It was planned by the DNC and Kerry campaign.

The one part they didn't plan on was being exposed as fraudulent. They must have imagined that there would be accusations from far flung quarters, but nothing that would bubble to the surface. They knew that if those who questioned Vince Foster's "suicide" could be marginalized as "right-wing kooks", then a little forgery would be easy to handle. After all, that was the least significant factor of the Foster "suicide" hoax.

CBS was counting on their unimpeachable credibility as a news organization to squelch any criticism that may timidly tiptoe their way. They believed, incorrectly, that it was still the days when they controlled the news.

They believed that a partisan media would back up their story since they had a common goal. What they must have forgotten is that these are also their competitors who are always looking to liberate some of their viewership.


47 posted on 09/10/2004 6:17:33 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: awakeandaware

Not a chance. This episode is too damaging to CBS to be anything but a horrible miscalculation on their part. They wanted to hurt Dubya, but they aren't kamikazis. They just happened to crash and burn via arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.


50 posted on 09/10/2004 6:18:35 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: awakeandaware

I agree with you.

While the headlines are full of Bush's memos, fake or real, people don't hear about Bush's agenda and they don't hear about the real Kerry, which started with the SwiftVets ads and was continued at the RNC.

This is indeed a diversion, to break Bush's momentum.

People only "like" Kerry is they don't hear from him and don't know anything about him. The more they find out, the less they like him.

So the Dems devised a strategy to keep people talking about something else. I agree with you, even if the memos are proven 100%, it took up a week, and may take up more, of precious time before the election.

That is why we need to make sure to keep talking about Kerry's record as well as Bush's record.

I just posted an article, the SwiftVets are planning more ads.

We need to keep the Bush momentum going.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212684/posts


51 posted on 09/10/2004 6:18:35 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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Sorry...looks like during this election time...we're really suspicious of all newbies....;o) Forgive me!!!
52 posted on 09/10/2004 6:19:24 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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You listen Coast to Coast, don't you?


59 posted on 09/10/2004 6:22:23 PM PDT by COURAGE (A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
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To: awakeandaware

I bet you've voted Republican all your life, haven't you?


60 posted on 09/10/2004 6:22:38 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The New Media: Thank God and Algore for the Internet!)
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To: awakeandaware
Well, the documents are now offically and tremendously SUSPECT, but let's leave that aside for now. In the meantime, Kerry is known far and wide as a treasonous SOB whose castration is near complete, President Bush may have 'goofed around.'

I report, you decide!

By the way, isn't it great to watch the left flagellate itself into spasmodic prostration?

61 posted on 09/10/2004 6:23:53 PM PDT by AlbionGirl (Tennyson: 'Rich in saving common sense, And, as the greatest only are, In his simplicity sublime.')
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