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1 posted on 09/10/2004 3:18:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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Focusing on the subscript and the typeface.


246 posted on 09/10/2004 3:37:11 PM PDT by FredZarguna (I'm FredZarguna, Founder and President of Fathers United to Counter Kerry.)
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Rather exculpates himself...........with something like Rush always says.....It's not the charges themselves but the "seriesness" of the charges............B-A-R-F!!!!!!!!!!!!!


269 posted on 09/10/2004 3:38:33 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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Handwriting expert claiming documents must be authentic. Guy says "we seek the truth". Uh-huh.


279 posted on 09/10/2004 3:38:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (I'm FredZarguna, Founder and President of Fathers United to Counter Kerry.)
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282 posted on 09/10/2004 3:39:11 PM PDT by dep (Ense Petit Placidam Sub Libertate Qvietem)
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299 posted on 09/10/2004 3:40:37 PM PDT by Alouette (FONTGATE: The Media's New Clothes)
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this thread is so long I don't know if anyone will read this. I just want to relate my take on Dan Rather and the organization that he represents.

On the morning of Septemeber 11, 2001, while the buildings were still burning in the background, Dan Rather told the world, "...We do not know who did this!"

I'm no genius, but even I was able to turn to my children and inform them: "That man is lying. Osama Bin Laden did this."

Dan Rather had zero credibility in my house from that day forward. In fact, he is considered an enemy sympathizer and a suspected traitor.

300 posted on 09/10/2004 3:40:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Jeepers...guess he just told us. NOT!!!!!!!!


324 posted on 09/10/2004 3:41:37 PM PDT by zlala
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This was a hit piece.  "No definitive evidence" the story is wrong.

Dan Rather is a pathetic partisan, not a journalist.

345 posted on 09/10/2004 3:42:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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lol... well that was laughable wasn't it? It leaves about 100 questions about the docs unanswered. Talk about a biased report!!


358 posted on 09/10/2004 3:43:04 PM PDT by marway (JF'nK, show us your records now!)
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Man, he's staking his career on the authenticity of these doc's. He addressed only 2 of the problems with the type on the doc's. Then he said if any additional evidence comes forward CBS would address it. He needs to go to Free Republic!
371 posted on 09/10/2004 3:43:36 PM PDT by saleman
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Rather basically concluded, if we are lying, you can't prove it.

He is sticking with his story that the docs are real.

He ignored that Gary Killiam, son, said the docs were questionable. Killiam was contacted my CBS before the 60 Minutes airing. Even Killiam's step mother said she doubted the documents, too.


380 posted on 09/10/2004 3:43:46 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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Actually just saw that freakin Canadian scumbag on the news trying to defend the documents.

And not bothering to show compared signatures or anything else.

385 posted on 09/10/2004 3:44:09 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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W.T.F........that's it??????? The man has lost his marbles....basically, "I'm right and when I'm wrong, I'll tell you I'm wrong............"
393 posted on 09/10/2004 3:44:33 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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HERE'S WHAT RATHER IS DOING:

He's daring ABC, CNN, the papers, the whole MSM to keep digging into it. He's giving them the excuse not to--"Oh, we have their explanation" and is telling them to SPIKE THE BALL. After all, who'll listen to nutbars on the Internet?

(So many holes in his report, I don't have the time....)

395 posted on 09/10/2004 3:44:39 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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There are two polls on the subject on CNN.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Should Dan Rather and CBS News reveal the sources of the Bush memos?

Yes 35% 282 votes

No 65% 519 votes

Total: 801 votes

AND
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/

Do you think the recently released memos on President Bush's National Guard service are authentic?

Yes 52% 65829 votes

No 48% 61920 votes

Total: 127749 votes

If you are so inclined, CNN needs a little FR power!


397 posted on 09/10/2004 3:44:46 PM PDT by JustAnotherSavage (If you don't like my peaches, don't shake my tree!)
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Well, I just sat through it all. A brazen, utterly brazen attempt to dodge the questions, counterattack the questioners and their motives, cite "known documents" not in evidence, and close the discussion.

The only technical details addressed were 1) superscripting existed, and 2) New Times Roman existed. Killian's never-attacked signature was vigorously defended as if it could not have been lifted.

Best of all, you could tell he knew he was lying. You could see it in his eyes.

404 posted on 09/10/2004 3:44:56 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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Fox covering cbs bs now


420 posted on 09/10/2004 3:46:01 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (W.W.P.D.? - What Would Patton Do?)
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I just watched it. What a load of crap.

Very biased report.

CBS Evening News, where Dan Rather's office is based....this gets you to the newsroom:

212-975-3691

Number found on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133594/posts

Ask just what "investigation" went into authenticating the memos and whether they will offer an on-air retraction.

Demand they apologize for this EXTREME lapse of journalistic practice and basic skills.

Ask about:

1) font and signature differences with Bush enlistment records
2) Kerning setting of 13, which were definitely NOT POSSIBLE WITH TYPEWRITERS OF THE PERIOD.
3) How the doc refers to a retired man as somehow pressuring Killian.

The gist of the report was a whitewash:

1) interviewing one "expert" on handwriting
2) interviewing one guy from the Texas military
3) not addressing the fact that a memo claimed a retired guy was pressuring Killian.
4) Ignoring the relatives of Killian speaking out.
5) Only comparing signatures that were the same instead of examining the different ones from the enlistment packet vs. the CBS docs.
6) Ignoring all the other experts who say the documents were forged.

Piss-poor report.

FREEP CBS NEWS LIKE NEVER BEFORE!


440 posted on 09/10/2004 3:47:09 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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That phony "document expert" for Dan Rather used signature comparison to determine the memo's validity, yet the memo was a copy. What a joker.
444 posted on 09/10/2004 3:47:22 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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LOL! Juan Williams is supporting CBS 100%!

Juan: "What's this about?T hese typewriters have been around since 1931."

Fred Barnes: "The typeface."

Juan: "Since 1931!"

Fred: "No the typeface has been around since 1931."

Juan: "These typewriters have been around forever."

487 posted on 09/10/2004 3:49:31 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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