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1 posted on 09/10/2004 3:18:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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Let's try again!


2 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:28 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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Not on here yet. The local news is still on because of the tennis tournament.


3 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:35 PM PDT by dormee
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Let me be first. He's lying.


4 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:42 PM PDT by Bertha Fanation
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Are they on on the east coast?


5 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:47 PM PDT by bellevuesbest
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Dan Got Some Splainnin to do!
6 posted on 09/10/2004 3:19:57 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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Please be detailed for those of us who can't watch!


7 posted on 09/10/2004 3:20:00 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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More like 'Heave at it.' '
9 posted on 09/10/2004 3:20:28 PM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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I'm waiting for Dan to say Yeah, that's the ticket.
11 posted on 09/10/2004 3:20:53 PM PDT by Marylander
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the fact that you all are watching tells me that Rather may be the winner out of this mess afterall... since the bottom line is all about ratings...


17 posted on 09/10/2004 3:21:45 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com/)
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Jim Angle is interviewing a Col from the Texas Air National Guard right now.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 3:21:46 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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Hopefully I can make it home from the office to watch...


21 posted on 09/10/2004 3:22:05 PM PDT by scott7278 ("FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat." -- Jim Robinson, 2/01/04)
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Some have already been clarified, but here are the running discrepancies:

1-- proportional spacing not generally available
2 -- superscripts not generally available
3 - small "th" single element not generally available
4 - Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available
5-The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, tactic of forgers
6--Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
7--Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it.
8 -- Date usually with three letters, or in form as 110471.
9 - words run over consistent with word processor
10 - may be a Times Roman or similar font not generally available then (per Haas Atlas)
11 - signature looks faked
12 - no errors and whiteout
13 - no letterhead
14 - exact match for Microsoft Word Processor
15 - Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
16 - Overlap analysis is an exact match
17 - absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter.
18 - 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist (actually does exist, but Mr. Bush had already moved TWICE from this address at the time the memo was written).
19 - Box 34567 is suspicious, at best. The current use of the po box 34567 is Ashland Chemical Company, A Division of Ashland Oil, Incorporated P. O. Box 34567 Houston (this has been confirmed by the Pentagon, per James Rosen on Fox News-However, many documents on John Kerry’s website show same)
20 - it would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer.
21 - Bush's grade would "normally" be abbreviated "1Lt" not "1st Lt"
22 - Subject matter bizarre
23 - Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.
24 - kerning was not available
25 - In the August 18, 1973 memo, Jerry Killian purportedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." but General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
26 - Language not generally used by military
27 - Not signed or initialed
28 - Not in any format that a military person would use, e.g. orders not given by Memo.
29 – Is the document original or a copy of an original? Why all the background noise such as black marks and a series of repeated dots (as if run through a Xerox).
31-The Killiam family rejected these documents as forgeries. Then where did the “personal files” come from if not the family?
32-Why no three hole punches evident at the top of the page?
33-Mr. Bush would have had automatic physical scheduled for his Birthday – in July! He would not have received correspondence.
34-Why is the redacted address of Longmont #8 visible beneath the black mark? This would have been impossible after one copy, but it would be visible if the document was scanned.
35-Why were these exact same documents available for sale on the Internet as early as January 2004? Is this where CBS obtained their copies?


30 posted on 09/10/2004 3:22:49 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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Just praying for a Captain Queeg meltdown.. if not tonight, some night soon.
31 posted on 09/10/2004 3:23:00 PM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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With McAuliffe and Dan Rather both again standing by the documents, I am a bit worried. They could come up with some B.S. that will "satisfy" the media and Dems and on they'll all go with the story about "real" and "damning" old documents and badgering Pres. Bush about them with lies and insults...Some haven't stopped yet, actually.


34 posted on 09/10/2004 3:23:52 PM PDT by BonnieJ
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I just found out today that when Kerry was in Gbo, on Tues. The best he could do was to have the State Auditor to introduce him to the Town Meeting.

Bowles, Easely and Perdue were all "unavailable".

Kerry has the plague.


36 posted on 09/10/2004 3:24:04 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The New Media: Thank God and Algore for the Internet!)
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With the demeaner of a veteran newscaster and professional, Dan is preparing his audience and 'fly-over' country to 'shove it.'
53 posted on 09/10/2004 3:26:21 PM PDT by BluSky (Liberalism - destroying live's, one failure at a time.)
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BACKROUND ON THE SEE-B.S. MEMOS
54 posted on 09/10/2004 3:26:27 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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EAST COAST TIME ZONE BASTARDS! (Please give us Westies a good report! Heheh.)


60 posted on 09/10/2004 3:26:58 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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MIDI - OBLADI OBLADA

Someone came to see the biased anchor man...he's the one who always hated Bush
He told Dan that he had certain documents...he could rely on them and go kick George's tush

Forgery, forgery...oh, my goodness...it is all a forgery
Frequency, frequency...oh, my goodness...Kenneth, what's the frequency

Rather couldn't wait to be exposing them...he was even drooling down his shirt
Like Mel Reynolds he thought it was Lotto time...and he would nail the President with all the dirt

Forgery, forgery...oh, my goodness...it is all a forgery
Frequency, frequency...oh, my goodness...Kenneth, what's the frequency

It really is about time Dan quit...ah ha...(la la la la la la la la la la la)
This time he really has stepped in it...I'm sure he'll be welcomed in Cuba

60 MINUTES showed it very happily...they thought they had really pulled a coup
Back in Chappaqua there's someone smiling big...please raise your hand if you think that you might know who

Forgery, forgery...oh, my goodness...it is all a forgery
Frequency, frequency...oh, my goodness...Kenneth, what's the frequency

It really is about time Dan quit...ah ha...(la la la la la la la la la la la)
This time he really has stepped in it...I'm sure he'll be welcomed in Cuba

Senator Tom Harkin shot his mouth off and...is there any place that he can hide
In the underground of rodents they are sad...there's not a single one of them who hasn't cried

Forgery, forgery...oh, my goodness...it is all a forgery
Frequency, frequency...oh, my goodness...Kenneth, what's the frequency

Hear poor TaRAYza scream -- four years of hell for me!

71 posted on 09/10/2004 3:27:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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Jeez! Im poking around with the remote...I dont have the slightest idea which channel See BS is! L0L!!


77 posted on 09/10/2004 3:28:24 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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