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New Questions On Bush Guard Duty [CBS USES FORGERIES TO SMEAR THE PRESIDENT!!!!!]
CBS ^ | 9/10/04 | Staff

Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees

New Questions On Bush Guard Duty

CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.

While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.

Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.

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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."

Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."

Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 60minutes; bush; camejo; cbs; ccrm; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; forgery; fraud; gwb; kerry; killian; nader; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; pilot; seebsnews; texas
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To: X-FID; All

Brit is on with this again; in finer detail. . .


761 posted on 09/09/2004 3:24:09 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: TastyManatees

bttt


762 posted on 09/09/2004 3:24:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gbunch; VRWC_minion

There are links to other docs in this thread that have official letterhead for the unit, and they show the 34567 PO Box.

I guess they just wanted something easy to remember.


763 posted on 09/09/2004 3:25:27 PM PDT by jdege
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To: TastyManatees

how common is issuing an ORDER in the form of a memo in the USAF?????????


764 posted on 09/09/2004 3:26:59 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: X-FID
"Angle just pointed out the superscript."

Yes and Brit did a more finely tuned interview re this story; CBS not returning calls to explain. . .

Oh to be a fly on their wall and McAulliffe's. . .

765 posted on 09/09/2004 3:31:21 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: LibWhacker
". . .it's a sure sign CBS knows it's been caught perpetrating a fraud on the American public."

. . .and I would suspect; not just CBS. . .

'Terry McAulliffe; where are you?'

766 posted on 09/09/2004 3:34:15 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: TastyManatees

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. YOU DID GREAT TODAY


767 posted on 09/09/2004 3:35:55 PM PDT by marty60
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To: cricket

McAulliffe! Come out McAulliffe!


768 posted on 09/09/2004 3:44:03 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: CobaltBlue
Times New Roman, designed in 1931 by Stanley Morison, Typographical Advisor to the Monotype Corporation, with the assistance of draughtsman Victor Lardent.

The Times of London first used it the following year. Linotype and Intertype quickly licensed the design, changing its name for their marketing purposes to Times Roman. Times Roman became an original core font for Apple in the 1980s and Times New Roman MT became one for Windows in the 1990s.

(Ironically, at the same time IBM invited Frutiger to adapt Univers for the Selectric Typewriter, they asked Morison to do the same with Times New Roman.) Whether superior to Courier or not, neither of these digital renditions of Morison's original design is the best one available today-in the opinion of information design specialist Erik Spiekermann. That honor goes to a version called Times Ten.

State Department bans Courier New 12, except for treaties-AIGA Journal

769 posted on 09/09/2004 3:44:05 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: dvwjr

Are you asking if I'm old enough to still have one, or dumb enough to still have one? LOL!






770 posted on 09/09/2004 3:47:29 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: MistyCA

Dare I say with a flare gun up J'FinK's A$$!!!!


771 posted on 09/09/2004 3:53:57 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: sinkspur

Did the Selectric or Executive have "curly quotes"?


772 posted on 09/09/2004 3:55:36 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Old Sarge

I sent an email with a link to Sweet Baby James this morning and got a reply right back... :-D


773 posted on 09/09/2004 3:56:04 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: TastyManatees
Hillary's hands are all over this...imho. Easily spotted fake docs against Bush would ONLY destroy Kerry....which is what Hildebeast wants!!

Kerry better watch his back now that the Clintonistas are in charge!! Pretty soon they will release Mrs. Ketchup's TAX records!! LOL! Kerry....you in trouble, boy!

774 posted on 09/09/2004 4:04:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mo1; TastyManatees
Great, Hannity is crediting FR with "exposing" the "fakes". FReepers have been barking up the wrong tree all day, and now the whole world is gonna know it, too.

Here is a sampling of the misinformation put forth on this thread that has already been debunked:

Budding Myth #1: "Proportional fonts were not available til the 80's."
Debunked: Proportional fonts were available on IBM typewriters in 1941.

Budding Myth #1: "Times New Roman font wasn't invented until 1988."
Debunked: The Times New Roman font designed in 1931 by Stanley Morison, Typographical Advisor to the Monotype Corporation, with the assistance of draughtsman Victor Lardent.

Budding Myth #1: "There was no '4' available without a foot and the top closed."
Debunked: The IBM Selectric Composer Times New Roman font of 1968 has exactly the right '4'.

Budding Myth #1: "The document was altered because one of the 'y's' is different from another 'y'."
Debunked: All typos made with typewriters were corrected by "altering" the document.

Budding Myth #1: "You need to use a complicated guage system to backspace with an IBM Selectric Composer typewriter."
Debunked: The IBM Selectric had a memory system that automatically adjusted the backstroke to exactly match the letter widths of the previously typed text as far back as 1968.

Budding Myth #1: "The type of typewriter that could do this would have cost $20,000 dollars back then."
Debunked: At least one type of typewriter that could do this was available for around $300.

These may be forgeries, but not because of anything that has been posted today.
775 posted on 09/09/2004 4:18:15 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: dvwjr

How much do you think a composer costed?

I am looking at a receipt from 1970.


776 posted on 09/09/2004 4:21:53 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: bootless

Yes, the quotes were "curly".


777 posted on 09/09/2004 4:26:13 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: CobaltBlue; dvwjr



http://www.ibm.com/Search?v=11&lang=en&cc=us&q=selectric&Search.x=0&Search.y=0


778 posted on 09/09/2004 4:27:36 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Kathy in Alaska; RedWing9; MJY1288; esther2; Left_Coast_Conservative; lonestargal; lonestar; ...

FYI ping. Sorry the thread is too long to cull those who already are aware.


779 posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:58 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: eastsider; TomServo; vetvetdoug; ElectricStrawberry; stompk; HOYA97; Laura Earl; ...

FYI ping. Sorry the thread is too long to cull those who already are aware.


780 posted on 09/09/2004 4:32:44 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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